Intermittent erecctions

**Times Roman** · 10-02-2014, 10:28 PM

so what's worse?

intermittent erections, or....

intermittently going limp?

**XxAndreaxX** · 10-03-2014, 01:51 AM

Originally Posted by GGot FFina?

Dude everybody here is trying to explain it to you but you are not listening. Do not take Test Suspension at this point or you will continue to slow down the recovery process. Finish doing your PCT and then give your body time to re adjust.
You also might be confused because you are comparing how you felt and how many times you were having sex while on your test cycle to how you are feeling now that you have come off.
Of course you will have less of a sex drive now that you are off Test and this will especially be much less while your body is trying to readjust. You have to give it time to see where you will really be but you want to now take test suspension which is a huge mistake. Do not take anything at this point except for the stuff for your PCT.

Give your body some time after you are done with your PCT and get some blood work and then take it from there.

Good luck!

Thanks bro, yeah, that’s what I wanted to do, maybe 5 monts are so long that someone forghets how it feels on normal test levels, you get used to be a superhero and then you wake up with a big slap. The test suspension Idea, came from someone who was taking that PWO as supplement, due its very short half life, it shouldn’t touch the HTPA... it shouldn’t, but it seems its not a very exact science and studies show that half life of test suspension could last up to a day. So better not risk that.

**GGot FFina?** · 10-03-2014, 12:17 PM

Originally Posted by XxAndreaxX

Thanks bro, yeah, that’s what I wanted to do, maybe 5 monts are so long that someone forghets how it feels on normal test levels, you get used to be a superhero and then you wake up with a big slap. The test suspension Idea, came from someone who was taking that PWO as supplement, due its very short half life, it shouldn’t touch the HTPA... it shouldn’t, but it seems its not a very exact science and studies show that half life of test suspension could last up to a day. So better not risk that.

There is no way i would take any type of Test, if you want your body to start producing naturally again. Your friend doesn't know what he is doing, IMO. Test is Test and if you want your body to start producing naturally again, you cant introduce an outside source of test to your body.

Stay completely off everything for a few months and IMO, you should go back to where you were before cycle. I cant guarantee that you will be able to have 3 girl friends at once, but you should be able to get your natural test to start producing good numbers again.

Good luck dude!

**XxAndreaxX** · 10-06-2014, 03:31 AM

thanks, yes I think Its actually better, now it seems to work more or less normally, and I can go 1-2 times a day, so both girls are satisfied ATM.
I'm doing 3 weeks nolva at 40mg ED and drop 4th week at 20mg ED.
clomid 50mg ED and drop 25mg next week.
Stane at 25mg EOD
is that ok???
I'll do 4 weeks clomid and 6 weeks nolva with taper down. 4 weeks standard PCT is too short IMO, and I have plenty of nolva here.

**marcus300** · 10-06-2014, 04:23 AM

stop taking steroids they are truly not for you.

**XxAndreaxX** · 10-14-2014, 06:02 AM

uff, still low libido.
I'm still at 50mg ED clomid, 40mg ED nolva, caber and 12,5mg ED exemestane.
Erecctions got better but still bad. I loose erecction very often while doing it, and its very hard for me to finish.
what else can I try except cialis and viagra???

**lovbyts** · 10-14-2014, 06:13 AM

Why dont you want to try Cialis until your hormones are back to normal???

You can always try a different girlfriend. I still say we need to see pictures to determine if she is the issue.

**XxAndreaxX** · 10-14-2014, 08:01 AM

don't know, never took cialis because I never needed it.
the girl might be part of the problem, but I know its my dick that's failing.
now I can say, 20 weeks cycle is faar too long, 12 weeks should be the limit. I also think, its better 2 10 weeks cycle included PCT than 1 20 weeks cycle in a year.
another thing that could have made things worse, is the test, I always was on sustanon , this time it was test E. ALAIK sustanon has decanoate ester thats 1,5times longer than enanthate . so the taper down this time was shorter.

**OdinsOtherSon** · 10-14-2014, 08:09 AM

Originally Posted by XxAndreaxX

don't know, never took cialis because I never needed it.
the girl might be part of the problem, but I know its my dick that's failing.
now I can say, 20 weeks cycle is faar too long, 12 weeks should be the limit. I also think, its better 2 10 weeks cycle included PCT than 1 20 weeks cycle in a year.
another thing that could have made things worse, is the test, I always was on sustanon, this time it was test E. ALAIK sustanon has decanoate ester thats 1,5times longer than enanthate. so the taper down this time was shorter.

Never needed steroids before either, did ya?

**XxAndreaxX** · 10-14-2014, 08:20 AM

Originally Posted by OdinsOtherSon

Never needed steroids before either, did ya?

Ok, I’ve never been a high libido guy, and in fact I needed some sexual boost. But the problem was not ED, but simply libido. Then I started steroids and my libido went skyhigh, even long after PCT.... until this last cycle.
Now the situation is different, I have libido, but I can’t hold an erecction for a longer period of time.
I simply went from use to abuse. As I used it with cauton, I only had positive efects. I really ment to do a 16 weeks cycle, but I messed it up with my calculations and ended up in 20weeks. Now I pay the error, 16 weeks would have been still too long.
Never will do that again, 10 weeks will be my limit, and I will try to stay within 8 weeks, maybe triyng multiple short cycle a year, instead one big.

**The Deadlifting Dog** · 10-14-2014, 08:44 AM

Originally Posted by XxAndreaxX

uff, still low libido.
I'm still at 50mg ED clomid, 40mg ED nolva, caber and 12,5mg ED exemestane.
Erecctions got better but still bad. I loose erecction very often while doing it, and its very hard for me to finish.
what else can I try except cialis and viagra???

Why don't you drop the AI as you have been told?

**XxAndreaxX** · 10-14-2014, 09:11 AM

because low estro stimulates test. Its a normal measure to use an AI during PCT.
Also I've been told that its nearly imposible to crush 100% estro with exemestane.
Don't know man, I'm at 12,5mg ED stane
Should I drop it and look if libido gets up?? Should I drop caber also??
I must be honest, I never took that amount of AI in a PCT, because I normal never had AI left for PCT, only a few tabs maybe.
But do you really think 12,5mg ED of stane can crush estro that hard to cause libido loss??

**4linked** · 10-14-2014, 09:48 AM

The ai will interfere with your recovery taking it with nova and Clomid and crushing your e2 probley won't help your dick.

**XxAndreaxX** · 10-14-2014, 10:02 AM

ok I'll drop the AI for a couple of days, lets see if it gets better...

**The Deadlifting Dog** · 10-14-2014, 10:05 AM

Originally Posted by XxAndreaxX

because low estro stimulates test. Its a normal measure to use an AI during PCT. Also I've been told that its nearly imposible to crush 100% estro with exemestane. Don't know man, I'm at 12,5mg ED stane Should I drop it and look if libido gets up?? Should I drop caber also?? I must be honest, I never took that amount of AI in a PCT, because I normal never had AI left for PCT, only a few tabs maybe. But do you really think 12,5mg ED of stane can crush estro that hard to cause libido loss??

Low estro does stimulate test.
That is how clomid and nolva work. They block the receptors and trick the body into thinking it has low estro.
Thus crushing your estro with an AI is unneeded.

FYI: I take 12.5mg of Exemestane ED while taking 450mg/week of test and my estradoil on a sensitive test is 17.
I believe taking 12.5 while taking no test while crash your estradoil.

On some sites it may be the norm to take an AI on PCT, but on this site it is recommended to not take an AI during PCT.
You yourself said you usually don't take an AI during PCT. ("only a few tabs maybe")

**XxAndreaxX** · 10-14-2014, 10:21 AM

Originally Posted by The Deadlifting Dog

Low estro does stimulate test.
That is how clomid and nolva work. They block the receptors and trick the body into thinking it has low estro.
Thus crushing your estro with an AI is unneeded.

FYI: I take 12.5mg of Exemestane ED while taking 450mg/week of test and my estradoil on a sensitive test is 17.
I believe taking 12.5 while taking no test while crash your estradoil.

On some sites it may be the norm to take an AI on PCT, but on this site it is recommended to not take an AI during PCT.
You yourself said you usually don't take an AI during PCT. ("only a few tabs maybe")

ok, I didn't know nolva and clomid actually trick the body. Indeed its the first time I’m hammering that much with an AI. It makes sense, If my T is actually non existant, estro will be non existant either. 12,5mg is what I’m taking for e2 control with up to 750mg test e.
Yeah everything makes sense, its worth the try.
I went through the weirdest things in this cycle, so I give the possibility to E2 crush, you convinced me thanks!

**Mp859** · 10-14-2014, 10:40 AM

Originally Posted by XxAndreaxX

ok, I didn't know nolva and clomid actually trick the body. Indeed its the first time I'm hammering that much with an AI. It makes sense, If my T is actually non existant, estro will be non existant either. 12,5mg is what I'm taking for e2 control with up to 750mg test e. Yeah everything makes sense, its worth the try. I went through the weirdest things in this cycle, so I give the possibility to E2 crush, you convinced me thanks!

iVe crushed my e2 5 days after my last pin of test e and that was with exemestane. Ai in pct is not a good idea IMO.

**thegame1431** · 10-14-2014, 07:48 PM

5 months on is too long, so your natural test production is probably shot in between post cycle and teh PCT kicking in

**XxAndreaxX** · 10-15-2014, 01:42 AM

interesting thanks!!! We never stop to learn!! anyone knows how much time it takes from the last stane, to rebuild some E2? normally it should be the time of the half life right? or might it take something more?
I took the last stane pill yesterday in the morning, so now its 24h later. this night I woke up with an extreme erecction, was hard to pee. but I still don't feel the real thing.

another question: crushing E2 shouldn't affect recovery right?? I mean its not good, but does it afect somehow to HPTA recovery??

**XxAndreaxX** · 10-20-2014, 02:15 AM

Hi all, so 6 days are gone and I still have ED. Its much better now, I can do sex 1-2 times a day, but there’s always a point where I loose erection. So IMO it was not E2 crash cause after 6 days E2 should have recovered right?? I think its simply low T.
What should I do now? Wait more time to make shure its not E2 crash, or start AI again now, but this time at 12,5mg E3D???
My PCT is getting towards its end, this should be my last week, but I really don’t feel recovered. Obviously I’ll do one more week.

**lovbyts** · 10-20-2014, 02:53 AM

Dont be to quick to rule out E2. As I think mentioned many times the best way to know is get blood work done but it wont do any good while doing your PCT.

I think it's probably mental at this point because you are focusing on it to much.

**XxAndreaxX** · 10-20-2014, 03:27 AM

Originally Posted by lovbyts

Dont be to quick to rule out E2. As I think mentioned many times the best way to know is get blood work done but it wont do any good while doing your PCT.

I think it's probably mental at this point because you are focusing on it to much.

I’ll do BW in 2 months or so, to see if everything got stabilized.
I’m shure the mental part is a big issue, but I don’t think I’ll get it fixed until my next cycle.
Ok I’ll wait 4-5 more days, and maybe then, start AI E3D??

**lovbyts** · 10-20-2014, 05:13 AM

No I dont think you should start an AI. You risk crashing your E2 and being a lot worse than now. You really are not doing bad so no reason to start experimenting and making things worse.

**XxAndreaxX** · 10-20-2014, 05:35 AM

Originally Posted by lovbyts

No I dont think you should start an AI. You risk crashing your E2 and being a lot worse than now. You really are not doing bad so no reason to start experimenting and making things worse.

I know I felt worse before, but I still don't feel recovered, I still feel something missing. It doesn't get as hard as it should. one of the 2 girls isn't able to finish anymore, she says, its not hard enough!

**uhit** · 10-20-2014, 05:42 AM

Sounds like my morning wood.
Try viagra... *wink wink*

**lovbyts** · 10-20-2014, 05:45 AM

I'm telling you, get some Cialis for now. 5mg 2x a day until you can get blood work done to see if it's test, E2 or prolactin. Until then you would be guessing and easily make thing worse.

**XxAndreaxX** · 10-20-2014, 08:56 AM

Originally Posted by lovbyts

I'm telling you, get some Cialis for now. 5mg 2x a day until you can get blood work done to see if it's test, E2 or prolactin. Until then you would be guessing and easily make thing worse.

cialis won't do things worse?? maybe i can start with a 1/4 pill pre-sex, and work from there for my needs??

**lovbyts** · 10-20-2014, 09:09 AM

No there are no negative side effect of Cialis. Positive are regulates or lowers blood pressure, helps stop prostate swelling and other things. You dont become dependent on it.

A good read.
Cialis and your Prostate: Understanding Prostate Issues, Prevention & Treatment

**Red Bastard** · 10-20-2014, 10:38 AM

Originally Posted by XxAndreaxX

... maybe i can start with a 1/4 pill pre-sex..

Cialis isn't like Viagra. No need to take it before sex. Take it in the morning, and it's ready when you are. Even 5mg every other day can be quite noticeable.

**XxAndreaxX** · 10-27-2014, 03:30 AM

Wow Guys, finally, this weekend, it worked like it had to do. It got very hard and never got down, and my girl finished every time like when I was on test.
My libido is still low, and its very hard for me to finish, especially the 2nd time. Now that my HPTA seems to be partially recovered, what will happen if I discontinue clomid and nolva? This will be my last week at clomid at 25mg nolva I’m still at 40mg, next week I’d do 20mg and then stop it too.
Finally, I don’t know if it was Stane that crashed my E2, or it was simply low T that slowly recovered. From the last pill of stane, 2 weeks are gone, the recovery was very slow but linear. In this case is it normal, or should it be a sudden recovery if its E2 crash?
Thanks!!

**XxAndreaxX** · 10-28-2014, 10:51 AM

Erecctions are working better now. Morning wood, no limp dick during sex, although it still looses hardness sometimes.
But now I’m getting very lethargic, I can’t hold my eyes open.

**XxAndreaxX** · 11-07-2014, 05:23 AM

Some news, discontinued clomid since 1 week. Went on with nolva 20mg ED.
Doing sex every day since Sunday. Wensday it was nearly impossible to do sex, dick did not get very hard, at the beginning, and it got down immediately. So after that, I took 0,5 caber and 12,5 stane. Yesterday, I had sex 2 times, and I could have done it a third time. I was very lethargic yesterday after sex. Wanted to sleep all evening, had almost headaches.
Today I feel better, sill some headaches, but not lethargic ATM.
Something veeeeery strange is going on.
I guess, i crashed estrogen with stane, then estro came back and I felt good for some days. But it seems I still have some rebound, and estro got high, that explains why i got ED again and got extremely lethargic. It was taking stane, and erecctions came back again.
PCT is a very complicated thing, you have to deal with the weirdest things, and without bloodwork, its all a guess. It would be interresting, some Sci-Fi subq chip that gives you BW real time to your iWatch

**XxAndreaxX** · 11-11-2014, 09:47 AM

ok I think I just recovered from my last cycle Woooow.
At least I can get stable erecctions, great libido, not far away from during cycle. Doing sex every day, and I don’t feel that tired anymore. In the morning still much better erecctions than before bed at night.
10mg nolva ED and 12,5mg stane E3D.
That’s what I’m taking, as I threw in low dose stane again, libido and erecctions got much better.
So IMO AI is necessary during PCT, no matter what, you only have to be low dose, and avoid an estro crash.
Now the next goal is to maintain erecctions and libido, without any medicine. But even if I feel better right now, I’ll do a bloodwork.
Ufff it was close this time, I was scared as fck, to never get an good erecction again without meds.
Thank you all for the support, I learned many things this time, maybe you could learn something out of my experience too...

**HawaiiLifr** · 11-11-2014, 01:00 PM

You're living in Spain, so I know ugly girls weren't the problem. I would panic too.

In my opinion, the very best advice you were given was low dose Cialis everyday during PCT. You complained about ED, not libido. Cialis would've solved that- and you would've been spared your mental torture. Still, it was fun for everyone else.

**XxAndreaxX** · 11-12-2014, 03:18 AM

Originally Posted by HawaiiLifr

You're living in Spain, so I know ugly girls weren't the problem. I would panic too.

In my opinion, the very best advice you were given was low dose Cialis everyday during PCT. You complained about ED, not libido. Cialis would've solved that- and you would've been spared your mental torture. Still, it was fun for everyone else.

Yeah I thaught about Cialis, and I'll buy some cialis for shure for my next cycle. but Cialis won't solve the problem, it will only delay it.