Planning first cycle of Test E

**Meloncap78** · 10-20-2014, 10:24 AM

Just came off a bulk a little over 4 weeks ago (up to 213) and have been cutting at 2350 since. So far I have lost 12 pounds and am currently sitting at 201 in the morning. I am 6'2 36 years old and have been training seriously for roughly 2 years (wasted some time before that). I plan on going another month on my cut before I start this cycle at which time I will bump to maintenance and then hit 4k somewhere around the 4 week mark. My plan is Test E 500mg/wk @ 250mg/ml for 12 weeks. Already have my Test in hand as well as Nolva and Arimadex. I don't plan on running HCG but I am concerned about the Adex as I have read a bunch of cycle logs describing increased heart rate and palpitations etc. I would like to avoid this if possible. Is there something less harsh? I want this cycle to be as simple as possible being my first. My goal is as much mass as possible without getting fat. I have my diet/macros in place and will be keeping detailed logs. I may run 15 weeks depending on sides and if I am steadily gaining at that point still. I don't really want to have just 3 weeks worth of Test still kicking around the house. Here are a few pics to see where I am currently.

**Bodacious** · 10-20-2014, 10:51 AM

I would start the adex at .25mg eod and I would run HCG on cycle.

**ScotchGuard02** · 10-20-2014, 10:55 AM

My First Cycle: Planning and Executing a Successful First Cycle

Pretty much the standard first cycle read.

**Juced_porkchop** · 10-20-2014, 11:02 AM

HCG is not needed, but can help. a PCT with clomid and tamox I would rec and worry more about IMO, for 4-6 weeks.
Read the above sticky ^^ : )

**Lee_1978** · 10-20-2014, 03:26 PM

Originally Posted by Juced_porkchop

HCG is not needed, but can help. a PCT with clomid and tamox I would rec and worry more about IMO, for 4-6 weeks.
Read the above sticky ^^ : )

Isn't HCG pretty much essential on cycle as it helps with recovery?

**derekkpapa1** · 10-20-2014, 03:55 PM

Originally Posted by Lee_1978

Isn't HCG pretty much essential on cycle as it helps with recovery?

Have you read this?
HCG: Why you should use it on-cycle only & how to prepare your hCG for injections

**tice1212** · 10-20-2014, 04:11 PM

A couple of things here that u need to fix..
1. Never cut in pct. Ur just going to loss all ur gains.
2. Time on +pct = time off. Let ur body recover.
3. Adex .25 EOD
4. if u want a faster recovery and ur balls to still be working run HCG . (faster recovery = more gains kept
5. Ur a pretty high bodyfat i would find ur TDEE a sit at that number until ur bf% is around 11-12%.
6. Since u cut ur calories in pct probably means u cut more if not all ur gains u gained in ur last cycle..
7. Don't be afraid of low mid cardio it does wonders..
Good luck bro..

**Bio-Active** · 10-20-2014, 05:01 PM

You can replace Adex with aromasin . 12.5 mg Ed is a good starting point and adjust as needed. Hcg is a matter of choice. Do you want to maintain some testicular function during your cycle or not?

**jesse4466** · 10-20-2014, 06:00 PM

Def use HCG .

BG · 10-20-2014, 06:27 PM

Originally Posted by Juced_porkchop

HCG is not needed, but can help. a PCT with clomid and tamox I would rec and worry more about IMO, for 4-6 weeks.
Read the above sticky ^^ : )

Why try to recover when you dont have to be shut down in the first place? Makes for a lighter pct and those are the nasty chemicals you want to use the lease amount of.

**Meloncap78** · 10-20-2014, 07:14 PM

Originally Posted by tice1212

A couple of things here that u need to fix..
1. Never cut in pct. Ur just going to loss all ur gains.
2. Time on +pct = time off. Let ur body recover.
3. Adex .25 EOD
4. if u want a faster recovery and ur balls to still be working run HCG . (faster recovery = more gains kept
5. Ur a pretty high bodyfat i would find ur TDEE a sit at that number until ur bf% is around 11-12%.
6. Since u cut ur calories in pct probably means u cut more if not all ur gains u gained in ur last cycle..
7. Don't be afraid of low mid cardio it does wonders..
Good luck bro..

This is my first cycle. I cut my calories after a 3 month bulk. I am sittin around 16% BF.

**Meloncap78** · 10-23-2014, 09:46 PM

First pin today Test E (250mg/ml). Went smooth as can be. A tad bit of pip tonight but nothing serious. Been loading on hawthorne berry and bumped calories to 3200 (maintenance) a few days back. Have adex on hand but I am going to see how I fare with erase pro (have read several successful logs) Got Nolva in place for PCT. I am very excited to see where a good diet, some progressive lifting and gear gets me.