no itching means no gyno?..

**bumdart420** · 06-14-2003, 06:55 PM

Are itching and soreness the true signs of gyno or can a person get gyno without these symptons?

one other quick question: Should I lower my doseage of sust from 500 mg a week to 250 a week once i start taking my winny shots at 15o mg a week (to lessen water retention)?

Much thanks.

**Whoisdaman** · 06-14-2003, 07:00 PM

I had no itching and no soreness, really there are many signs. Pretty much if your nipples or pec is abnormal than you have gyno forming. Do you see any signs, if so what are they?

And no, don't drop the dosage. Keep it at 500mg/wk.

**Whoisdaman** · 06-14-2003, 07:02 PM

and winny at 150mg/wk? You really need to fix that dosage bro, you won't see any results. And how did you plan to run injections, because with winny you really can't go past eod... I would suggest ed injects of 50mg a day.

**bumdart420** · 06-14-2003, 07:07 PM

i only seem to notice anything, visually, when I bend over. It seems like i have slight swelling, but it doesnt feel swollen. Sometimes in certain light when I bend to the left or right (so my skin gets a little loose) I can see a diagnol type of puffiness. I wish I had a camera, but when its cold and my nipple tights up, it looks normal. Does this help?

the winni im running eod so it would be (Monday, wed, thurs, sunday, tues, etc). I dont want to shoot ed im sick of it already. That means the dose rotates from 150 and 200 mg a week.

**Whoisdaman** · 06-14-2003, 07:49 PM

Seriously, sounds like you might have the beginnings of gyno. Start up on some anti-e's, hell... it won't hurt to be sure. 60mg of nolvadex a day until symptoms fade, then you may want to run at 20mg a day just to make sure. You do have some nolva on hand, right?

**bumdart420** · 06-14-2003, 08:02 PM

thats what pissing me off right now man, I ve been waiting for a week to get some more but I havent heard from the guy yet.(I sold my pack, stupid). If worse comes to worse ill have my doctor perscribe some. Anyone know how much nolva or arimidex costs at the pharmacy?

**chevy44** · 06-14-2003, 09:01 PM

when i look for gyno symptoms (everyday) i feel for a lil lump that should be forming behind the nipple! dont start ur cycle w/out anti-e's on hand, and DONT sell ur anti-e's!

**bumdart420** · 06-14-2003, 10:10 PM

i know i know, i was trying to be a nice guy and i thought i would find some anti-e's in time but it didnt work out that way. ill never do that again.

I dont feel any lumps or bumps, I guess I might be alright for now, eh?

**Rickson** · 06-14-2003, 10:29 PM

Get on some Nolvadex . You want to stop this early.

**Danzig47** · 06-15-2003, 03:58 AM

Yes feeling for the lump behind the nipple is a good sign when i was 16 i had this symptom but didnt know what it was i now know that it was my raised test causing a rise in estrogen it becomes very sore to touch and you will beable to defentally feel it.

**still growin** · 06-15-2003, 09:55 AM

I had absolutely no pain, swelling or itching whatsoever. Just a small lump that is very distinguishable from muscle and fat tissue right behind the nips. You will know it is not right when it is there.

**Jeff1** · 06-15-2003, 12:05 PM

Man I have seen geniric nolva for like 348 bucks at the pharmacy
as well as in my doc office.

**bumdart420** · 06-15-2003, 03:10 PM

$350!!!! how many pills do you get for that crazy amount of money?

Anyone else know how much the anti's e's cost from the doctor?

Thanks for the replies.