The End of Prohormones FOREVER! - Several Days Until Laws are Signed

[system admin]

Test boosters, vitamins, etc.. will NOT ever be banned. These WERE drugs guys... dont fool yourselves. That is why they got such a nasty bill passed this time.

[Cody95]

This bill is in effect RIGHT NOW. HUGE RISKS GUYS.... HUGE

For real......?

[system admin]

YES. RIGHT NOW. There is NO grace period for this. This is 100% law and if you are a retailer and have these on your shelves (right now) you can be arrested and you will be a very very unhappy camper. This is going to destroy a lot of companies I can promise you that. On top of that, like I said... if YOU are one of the people who get made an example of, I feel very bad for you. Its going to be a nasty message to the rest of the country.

[Cody95]

YES. RIGHT NOW. There is NO grace period for this. This is 100% law and if you are a retailer and have these on your shelves (right now) you can be arrested and you will be a very very unhappy camper. This is going to destroy a lot of companies I can promise you that. On top of that, like I said... if YOU are one of the people who get made an example of, I feel very bad for you. Its going to be a nasty message to the rest of the country.

That's sad, I feel bad for the companies. I just bought a bottle of super dmz 2.0 about an hour ago off ebay, (dumb question) do you think it's likely for me to get caught. Plus I bought 6 other ph's a couple days ago and they already shipped out.

[system admin]

I would think You will be ok unless the company you bought it from gets busted and they look at their records. I bet they are going to make a huge example out of the big companies so there is no telling how ugly it gets. I would think the end user at this point is not going to be on the hit list. I bet you the DEA is chomping at the bit to take down the big guys who have been so arrogantly flashing around money and such and who blatantly tell the users of their products that these are designer steroids . Several companies come to mind that have done that.

Ironmaglabs
blackstone
anabolic technologies
GPL labs, etc...

I think you will be ok but you never know so be safe.

[davidtheman100]

Everyone look at ironmaglabs selling things 60-70% off rn

[Cody95]

Everyone look at ironmaglabs selling things 60-70% off rn

If I was them I would be getting the hell out of the country.

[davidtheman100]

If I was them I would be getting the hell out of the country.

Naw they said that they only have 4-5 products with stuff on the banned list of 25 and that they will discontinue them very soon. They said they'll still be coming out with new stuff and "playing things by the book" It seems as though this is going to be a fairly slow process because it's the 25 compounds listed, and then that leaves plenty of other PH's they'll have to weed out sporadically

[system admin]

Naw they said that they only have 4-5 products with stuff on the banned list of 25 and that they will discontinue them very soon. They said they'll still be coming out with new stuff and "playing things by the book" It seems as though this is going to be a fairly slow process because it's the 25 compounds listed, and then that leaves plenty of other PH's they'll have to weed out sporadically

Bro, this is 100% wrong. The law clearly states that ANY substance that is similar to ANY anabolic steroid that is on the list (over 70 chemicals) and is marketed for building muscle shall be deemed an anabolic steroid.

These idiots that don't stop selling their shit just because an ingredient is not on the list are going to go to jail. As a matter of fact, if the local DEA was called right now and informed of a company selling these steroids the DEA would treat this just like a tip about crack, meth, or any other drug.

don't think for a minute that THE DEA would not want to take a picture of themselves standing next to 5000 bottles of designer steroids.

[fatalflame]

does this include test boosters as well?

[system admin]

This is only talking about products that have steroids and steroidal compounds in them. Basically, if the product is made up of effective herbs and other natural ingredients the product is not banned. If it has steroid compounds in them they are now illegal.

[Cody95]

does this include test boosters as well?

Nope, that's all we have now.. unless...

[davidtheman100]

This is only talking about products that have steroids and steroidal compounds in them. Basically, if the product is made up of effective herbs and other natural ingredients the product is not banned. If it has steroid compounds in them they are now illegal.

Pj and Aaron are gonna get arrested then...

[davidtheman100]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-zVUClpmBj8

1:30-2:30

[bass]

does this include test boosters as well?

testosterone boosters are no big deal, they are not hormones, they won't waste time on those. but designer or pro hormones like Myogenix spawn which was banned years ago.

[system admin]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-zVUClpmBj8

1:30-2:30

I dont think they read the bill closely enough. What they are saying between 1.30 -2.30 is completely wrong. The DEA or the Attorney General does not have to add things to the bill. If it is similar to steroids it will be considered a drug UNLESS it is an herb or botanical and the burden of PROVING their products dont have steroids in the products is left up to them. (I do not think that many of their products have herbs in them, but I dont really know)

They are saying that they are removing 4, but I think they will be removing a lot more than that. It will be interesting to see if these businesses can stay in business after they no longer can sell steroids. We say 100's of companies go out of business the last time this happend, and that includes some pretty big ones. Lets hope they can make it through.

[Solcis]

Another police state law. You are now guilty until proven innocent, which is goes against EVERYTHING what America was founded upon. I tell ya... the government won't be happy until at least half the population is behind bars.

A tyranny is when you have to ask the government permission to do just about anything. We're there right now.

[system admin]

it will get worse before it gets better.

[Cody95]

Another police state law. You are now guilty until proven innocent, which is goes against EVERYTHING what America was founded upon. I tell ya... the government won't be happy until at least half the population is behind bars.

A tyranny is when you have to ask the government permission to do just about anything. We're there right now.

We need to get rid of obama......

[tectime]

Now that's an intelligent post from our young friend! Thank God Americas youth can see the situation and hopefully will not make the same **** up ever again. Strong leadership, the ability to recognize a problem and the intelligence to fix it are what's needed in the most highest prestigious office in our great country not just a slick talker.

[system admin]

We need to get rid of obama......

This makes me smile :-)

[jolter604]

Is DIM considered a pro hormone?

[Far from massive]

We need to get rid of profiteers who sell shit they damn well know is dangerous and play games exploiting loopholes in laws so they can profit by them. These companies know full well the damage that these "Pro-Whore Moans do and I for one would not shed a tear seeing these scum stripped of every dime they earned exploiting the youth of America.

As far as blaming Obama, that's just ridiculous. Presidents on both sides of the isle have been trying to stop the distribution of PH for ages. As far as Obama, He has done a lot of wrong, but this is right and is supported by most all of those who are involved, pretty safe to say the only ones opposed are those with a finger in the pie (those who work for the industry, lobbyists etc.) and those who are very naïve about the dangers of PH or those who simply feel that the government should not regulate anything and that this only makes it easier for the next law to be passed.

[senorrebo]

Good riddance...

^^that

[TestAce]

Just spent 800 bills lol gotta get em while they're still here

You spent $800 on prohormones...****in lol.

[davidtheman100]

You spent $800 on prohormones...****in lol.

Already made money back with 20+ bottles left.. I'm having a ball

[Solcis]

It appears that most people on here support the ban.

We need to get rid of profiteers who sell shit they damn well know is dangerous and play games exploiting loopholes in laws so they can profit by them.

This is an amazing statement and something that was said countless times. In the 1920's during Prohibition. When alcohol was banned, all sorts of bad actors entered the trade because its ban automatically increased its price by 20 times over. Simple economics, folks. Next, to make a profit all kinds of low-priced "cuts" were added to the alcohol. Things like yummy formaldehyde and other chemicals perfect for growing boys and girls. Wood grain alcohol, aka methanol, was sold and passed off as alcohol. You know, the kind that can kill you after taking one drink. Denatured (purposefully contaminated) alcohol was another nice product offered up as alcohol. The "kinder" dealers tried to remove as much garbage from the denatured alcohol as possible, but the end product was still very toxic.

The end result? Thousands of people died each year... in New York, alone. In all, Prohibition led to a small mountain of bodies until its repeal in 1933. That's 13 years of hell. All because a lot of self-righteous people decided to experiment with banning a substance that millions of people used and CHOSE to drink of their own, free will.

With steroids , the number of deaths that can in any way be attributed to them are next to zero. Permanent harm is also low, especially considering the number of people who abuse them and some of the ridiculous substances that have been brewed to get around the original steroid prohibition (the 1990 Anabolic Steroids Control Act). If there were limited restrictions placed on AAS and doctors could advise patients who want to take them, then all of these prohormones would go away as users flocked to much safer substances. Instead under this new law, supply will be further restricted, prices will rise, more scumbags will enter the black market, tons more of stuff sold will be purposefully adulterated, and a lot of people will suffer needlessly and not know what they're taking.

No good thing can ever come from the prohibition of something that millions of people CHOOSE to take. I won't go into why this stuff was banned in such a totalitarian way right now, but you can be sure that plenty of people are responsible. Mostly congress in lockstep with their money masters, but the president has to sign everything into law. He also does as he's told. You can thank both houses for strongly supporting this bill. The George HW Bush admin brought in the original prohibition bill in 1990. The Clinton admin was surprisingly easy on steroids, but the DEA wasn't. Dan Duchaine and many others were thrown to the wolves during his two terms. The really bad followup bans came under Dubya. And Obama has to be the worst, although it's all relative and debatable.

At this moment, there have to be millions who can be considered federal felons due to this new law, including davidtheman above. Why do people have to FORCE other people to comply with their ideas of puritan standards when everyone of those people are just a bunch of goddamned hypocrites?! I'll never understand it. This ban won't affect me one bit and I wish the best for all of you to exercise your God-given right to do to your bodies and muscles as you damned well please!

[Chicagotarsier]

All this bill did was make me look like a genius for moving to Asia. Order and receive AAS and anything you want via mail no issues. Why is it the only place on the planet that gives a shat is the US?

Could it be because of Big Pharma? I think so! Who wants every male a walking stud? How does pharma and the medical industry make cash off of phlebotomies? LOL

Maybe the best thing to ever happen to me was to go hypogonadal? lol

[BuzzardMarinePumper]

Why are people wanting to buy pro hormones ? I have never heard them recommended by members on this forum and only bad results from ppl who take them as far as health effects go ?

[< <Samson> >]

Why are people wanting to buy pro hormones ? I have never heard them recommended by members on this forum and only bad results from ppl who take them as far as health effects go ?

I so agree with this & say the same shit

You wanna get juiced - get juiced

Fvck PH - legal or not

[davidtheman100]

You guys should see the pro-hormone they had out called "Blackjack" had 5 compounds in it and 1 bottle costed close to 200$ included tren , 1andro dmz etc

[Cody95]

You guys should see the pro-hormone they had out called "Blackjack" had 5 compounds in it and 1 bottle costed close to 200$ included tren, 1andro dmz etc

Now that's horrible, might as well kill yourself if you're going to take something with 5 methylated compounds.

[system admin]

You guys should see the pro-hormone they had out called "Blackjack" had 5 compounds in it and 1 bottle costed close to 200$ included tren, 1andro dmz etc

That is the type of product that will shut down a young persons hormones long term. Unreal

[Cody95]

That is the type of product that will shut down a young persons hormones long term. Unreal

Yeah that's quite a bit overboard, I understand if someone runs one compound for a couple weeks but that's just crazy.

[noumenon]

A lot of the so called prohormon weren't prohormones even a little bit; the majority of the most popular new-age PHs, especially in the last few years, have all been already active designer steroids . There was nothing more dangerous about a lot of these products than most other methylation steroids. Doesn't mean they weren't bad in the wrong hands tho

[tcw]

What bout peptides ?

Are they banned too?

I want to buy some tb500....

[Cody95]

What bout peptides ?

Are they banned too?

I want to buy some tb500....

No they're not.... Not yet.

[Aerospace]

can't believe the gov't sometimes..