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12-18-2014, 08:19 PM #41Owner
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Test boosters, vitamins, etc.. will NOT ever be banned. These WERE drugs guys... dont fool yourselves. That is why they got such a nasty bill passed this time.
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12-18-2014, 08:19 PM #42
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12-18-2014, 08:33 PM #43Owner
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YES. RIGHT NOW. There is NO grace period for this. This is 100% law and if you are a retailer and have these on your shelves (right now) you can be arrested and you will be a very very unhappy camper. This is going to destroy a lot of companies I can promise you that. On top of that, like I said... if YOU are one of the people who get made an example of, I feel very bad for you. Its going to be a nasty message to the rest of the country.
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12-18-2014, 08:38 PM #44
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12-18-2014, 09:11 PM #45Owner
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I would think You will be ok unless the company you bought it from gets busted and they look at their records. I bet they are going to make a huge example out of the big companies so there is no telling how ugly it gets. I would think the end user at this point is not going to be on the hit list. I bet you the DEA is chomping at the bit to take down the big guys who have been so arrogantly flashing around money and such and who blatantly tell the users of their products that these are designer steroids . Several companies come to mind that have done that.
Ironmaglabs
blackstone
anabolic technologies
GPL labs, etc...
I think you will be ok but you never know so be safe.
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12-18-2014, 09:33 PM #46Banned
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Everyone look at ironmaglabs selling things 60-70% off rn
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12-18-2014, 09:40 PM #47
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12-19-2014, 05:44 AM #48Banned
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Naw they said that they only have 4-5 products with stuff on the banned list of 25 and that they will discontinue them very soon. They said they'll still be coming out with new stuff and "playing things by the book" It seems as though this is going to be a fairly slow process because it's the 25 compounds listed, and then that leaves plenty of other PH's they'll have to weed out sporadically
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12-19-2014, 07:26 AM #49Owner
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Bro, this is 100% wrong. The law clearly states that ANY substance that is similar to ANY anabolic steroid that is on the list (over 70 chemicals) and is marketed for building muscle shall be deemed an anabolic steroid.
These idiots that don't stop selling their shit just because an ingredient is not on the list are going to go to jail. As a matter of fact, if the local DEA was called right now and informed of a company selling these steroids the DEA would treat this just like a tip about crack, meth, or any other drug.
don't think for a minute that THE DEA would not want to take a picture of themselves standing next to 5000 bottles of designer steroids.
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12-19-2014, 12:52 PM #50
does this include test boosters as well?
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12-19-2014, 12:57 PM #51Owner
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12-19-2014, 02:39 PM #53Banned
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12-19-2014, 02:42 PM #54Banned
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12-19-2014, 05:21 PM #55
testosterone boosters are no big deal, they are not hormones, they won't waste time on those. but designer or pro hormones like Myogenix spawn which was banned years ago.
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12-19-2014, 06:15 PM #56Owner
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I dont think they read the bill closely enough. What they are saying between 1.30 -2.30 is completely wrong. The DEA or the Attorney General does not have to add things to the bill. If it is similar to steroids it will be considered a drug UNLESS it is an herb or botanical and the burden of PROVING their products dont have steroids in the products is left up to them. (I do not think that many of their products have herbs in them, but I dont really know)
They are saying that they are removing 4, but I think they will be removing a lot more than that. It will be interesting to see if these businesses can stay in business after they no longer can sell steroids. We say 100's of companies go out of business the last time this happend, and that includes some pretty big ones. Lets hope they can make it through.
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12-20-2014, 04:22 PM #57New Member
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Another police state law. You are now guilty until proven innocent, which is goes against EVERYTHING what America was founded upon. I tell ya... the government won't be happy until at least half the population is behind bars.
A tyranny is when you have to ask the government permission to do just about anything. We're there right now.
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12-20-2014, 05:20 PM #58Owner
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it will get worse before it gets better.
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12-20-2014, 05:37 PM #59
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12-20-2014, 05:54 PM #60
Now that's an intelligent post from our young friend! Thank God Americas youth can see the situation and hopefully will not make the same **** up ever again. Strong leadership, the ability to recognize a problem and the intelligence to fix it are what's needed in the most highest prestigious office in our great country not just a slick talker.
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12-20-2014, 06:16 PM #61Owner
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12-20-2014, 06:44 PM #62
Is DIM considered a pro hormone?
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12-20-2014, 06:50 PM #63
We need to get rid of profiteers who sell shit they damn well know is dangerous and play games exploiting loopholes in laws so they can profit by them. These companies know full well the damage that these "Pro-Whore Moans do and I for one would not shed a tear seeing these scum stripped of every dime they earned exploiting the youth of America.
As far as blaming Obama, that's just ridiculous. Presidents on both sides of the isle have been trying to stop the distribution of PH for ages. As far as Obama, He has done a lot of wrong, but this is right and is supported by most all of those who are involved, pretty safe to say the only ones opposed are those with a finger in the pie (those who work for the industry, lobbyists etc.) and those who are very naïve about the dangers of PH or those who simply feel that the government should not regulate anything and that this only makes it easier for the next law to be passed.
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12-20-2014, 09:05 PM #64Associate Member
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Originally Posted by jimmyinkedup
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12-21-2014, 07:39 AM #65Junior Member
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12-21-2014, 10:27 AM #66Banned
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12-22-2014, 12:47 AM #67New Member
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It appears that most people on here support the ban.
We need to get rid of profiteers who sell shit they damn well know is dangerous and play games exploiting loopholes in laws so they can profit by them.
The end result? Thousands of people died each year... in New York, alone. In all, Prohibition led to a small mountain of bodies until its repeal in 1933. That's 13 years of hell. All because a lot of self-righteous people decided to experiment with banning a substance that millions of people used and CHOSE to drink of their own, free will.
With steroids , the number of deaths that can in any way be attributed to them are next to zero. Permanent harm is also low, especially considering the number of people who abuse them and some of the ridiculous substances that have been brewed to get around the original steroid prohibition (the 1990 Anabolic Steroids Control Act). If there were limited restrictions placed on AAS and doctors could advise patients who want to take them, then all of these prohormones would go away as users flocked to much safer substances. Instead under this new law, supply will be further restricted, prices will rise, more scumbags will enter the black market, tons more of stuff sold will be purposefully adulterated, and a lot of people will suffer needlessly and not know what they're taking.
No good thing can ever come from the prohibition of something that millions of people CHOOSE to take. I won't go into why this stuff was banned in such a totalitarian way right now, but you can be sure that plenty of people are responsible. Mostly congress in lockstep with their money masters, but the president has to sign everything into law. He also does as he's told. You can thank both houses for strongly supporting this bill. The George HW Bush admin brought in the original prohibition bill in 1990. The Clinton admin was surprisingly easy on steroids, but the DEA wasn't. Dan Duchaine and many others were thrown to the wolves during his two terms. The really bad followup bans came under Dubya. And Obama has to be the worst, although it's all relative and debatable.
At this moment, there have to be millions who can be considered federal felons due to this new law, including davidtheman above. Why do people have to FORCE other people to comply with their ideas of puritan standards when everyone of those people are just a bunch of goddamned hypocrites?! I'll never understand it. This ban won't affect me one bit and I wish the best for all of you to exercise your God-given right to do to your bodies and muscles as you damned well please!
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12-22-2014, 01:34 AM #68Senior Member
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All this bill did was make me look like a genius for moving to Asia. Order and receive AAS and anything you want via mail no issues. Why is it the only place on the planet that gives a shat is the US?
Could it be because of Big Pharma? I think so! Who wants every male a walking stud? How does pharma and the medical industry make cash off of phlebotomies? LOL
Maybe the best thing to ever happen to me was to go hypogonadal? lol
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12-22-2014, 06:08 AM #69
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Why are people wanting to buy pro hormones ? I have never heard them recommended by members on this forum and only bad results from ppl who take them as far as health effects go ?
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Originally Posted by BuzzardMarinePumper
You wanna get juiced - get juiced
Fvck PH - legal or not
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12-23-2014, 03:14 PM #71Banned
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You guys should see the pro-hormone they had out called "Blackjack" had 5 compounds in it and 1 bottle costed close to 200$ included tren , 1andro dmz etc
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12-23-2014, 04:40 PM #72
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12-23-2014, 06:54 PM #73Owner
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A lot of the so called prohormon weren't prohormones even a little bit; the majority of the most popular new-age PHs, especially in the last few years, have all been already active designer steroids . There was nothing more dangerous about a lot of these products than most other methylation steroids. Doesn't mean they weren't bad in the wrong hands tho
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12-24-2014, 03:36 PM #76
What bout peptides ?
Are they banned too?
I want to buy some tb500....
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12-24-2014, 08:10 PM #77
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12-24-2014, 10:06 PM #78
can't believe the gov't sometimes..
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