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    Self blood letting

    Hey iron brothers! Can some one hit me with that link for bass self blood let. I've searched for that thread and for some reason can't find that u tube vid. either. Thanks !

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    I found it ! Duh!

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    you will need,

    A. 5/32" OD polyurethane tubing, preferably clear.
    B. 18 gauge x 1.5" needle
    C. BP cuff
    D. 16 oz clear water bottle
    E. first aid tape (I use electric tape)
    F. gauze wrap

    1. cut polyurethane tubing to about 4 feet long.
    2. insert one end of tubing into the needle luer lock opening (should press fit), then wrap with tape to insure tubing stays in.
    3. poke two small holes in the water bottle cap, make sure they are smaller than the tubing so the tube press fits in.
    4. press the other end of the tube into one of the holes and secure with tape if needed, and leave the other hole open.
    5. put the cuff on but do not pump.
    6. find the vein and clean the are with alcohol few times.
    7. get a large cotton ball ready for after pulling the needle out.
    8. pump the cuff until you can feel the vein then with a quick move stick the needle in at a very shallow angle. remember the vein is only skin deep, so make sure you go in with very shallow angle. you should see blood shoot though the tubing and into the bottle. if blood slows down simply squeeze your fist every few seconds, if still slow you can increase the cuff pressure as needed.

    IMPORTANT!
    when pulling out the needle make sure the cuff is completely deflated, otherwise you'll bleed allover the place


    9. when finished deflate the cuff completely and pull the needle out, then immediately place a large cotton ball on the area and press firmly, rise your hand for about a minute or so then check and see if the bleeding stopped. add a new cotton ball then wrap with gauze for about 3 hours or so. this part is much easier if someone else does it for you.

    Good luck!

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    Thanks man !

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    Curious as to why your doing this. RBC getting high?

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    Hematocrit level needs alittle adjusting.

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    I dont have the balls 4 that.

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    It's def an acquired taste

    Thanks to bass's vid & my woman, it's just a bi monthly thing for me now
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    I wish I had the balls to do it myself

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    Haha ! Well we'll see if I do ! Very informative vid. and list of supplies ! Thanks Bass ! I've been wanting to do this for awhile...... finally got my sweet little wife to agree to be my safety. She got no problem stabbing me in the ass when I ask her to Haha !

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    definitely wish i had enough sack to do this myself...

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    Why not just donate blood Tectime?
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    I was donating the other day, and some lady passed out.

    weird

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    Red cross can't get enough of me!........little annoyed with the weekly Sunday night phone calls to donate!

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    Red flagged steroid user Kel. One of the girls at the Red Cross knows me personally and another one heard us talking about hrt and boom. No good !

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    Quote Originally Posted by tectime
    Red flagged steroid user Kel. One of the girls at the Red Cross knows me personally and another one heard us talking about hrt and boom. No good !
    Happened years ago.

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    Wasn't even the hrt as much as it was hgh. Oh that's a huge issue for them. You think they would be begging for that high fueled fluid haha!

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    The best setup I came up with. Some fish line adapter, 18ga spike & black aquarium air line - along with whatever bottle is on hand
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    Does red cross accept high blood pressure?

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    Quote Originally Posted by < <Samson> > View Post
    The best setup I came up with. Some fish line adapter, 18ga spike & black aquarium air line - along with whatever bottle is on hand
    That is spooky Looks like something out of a Srat Trek Borg movie ! I think it is the black tubing ? Can you see through the black at all ?

    Not me to many Red Cross blood banks with-in an hour of ne and I get free trail mis and cranberry juice

    I was considering this until my life got so boreing and besides I have got 2 dates from red cross nurses

    At 55 you gotta take it where you find it and not ready for AARP lunches yet

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    Quote Originally Posted by poppz View Post
    Does red cross accept high blood pressure?
    Not if it's not high at the time of donation ! I have been flagged 4 times and went back a few days later and they took it and one I had to go to another cente .

    One other thing to remember is read the question closely and make sure you put the correct answer down for the goal you are there for ! ! ! !Think ? You are there to donate lood so make sure you answer properly to donate blood

    1) High Blood Pressure !
    2) To high of a pluse rate !
    3) Razor rash at donation point ?
    AH Red Cross lady ask me if I did drugs of any kind ?? ? ? ? I am 55 and were jeans loafers and a Polo shirt ? Woder what makes me look like a druggie ? Long hair ?
    4) The really bad one is to high of a red blood count to HIGH to give see your Dr. Got that one time and I can think of nothing I had done any different from previous times ?
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    Quote Originally Posted by BuzzardMarinePumper View Post
    That is spooky Looks like something out of a Srat Trek Borg movie ! I think it is the black tubing ? Can you see through the black at all ?


    Ha ha

    Yeah, I get that borg tube feeling while this thing is in


    Nah, you can't see through it - just watch it fill up in the bottle

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    Quote Originally Posted by tectime View Post
    Red flagged steroid user Kel. One of the girls at the Red Cross knows me personally and another one heard us talking about hrt and boom. No good !
    Interesting. I doubt the one girl can prove anything and I wonder if your doc would write a letter for you. HRT therapy is not exclusionary when it comes to donating.
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    I have been turned away due to out of spec tests they run just before drawing blood. I asked why they would not take my dontation...answer...HCT too high.
    Quote Originally Posted by kelkel View Post
    Interesting. I doubt the one girl can prove anything and I wonder if your doc would write a letter for you. HRT therapy is not exclusionary when it comes to donating.

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    Quote Originally Posted by kelkel
    Interesting. I doubt the one girl can prove anything and I wonder if your doc would write a letter for you. HRT therapy is not exclusionary when it comes to donating.

    Went yesterday to try and was informed "flagged" . The girl I knew doesn't even work there anymore but we even called some phone number and they are going to get back to me and see if flag can be lifted since doc prescribed but they said they will not do it if it's for a medical reason like high crit or iron levels.

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    And the girl I know wasn't the one that flag me she and I were just discussing some things and another one overheard us and asked me oh do you self inject and when I said yes boom hence the phone call yesterday to try to remove flag. They were checking my iron level when the girl I know said oh I bet it's because of your HRT and the other one said oh well you can't donate then. I asked why Dr. prescribed she asked do you self inject and before I could even answer that she said he's not going to be able to donate Iron level too high and steroid user.

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    Oh and don't get me wrong I wasn't trying to hide it. Haha I even went into my "that's kind of discriminatory women can take hormones but men shouldn't " speech but to no avail. Happened like four years ago and yesterday was the first time I've tried since but no good. My crit as been high like 50 + ever since which causes me to have to back off doses when really ramping up. Blood pressure and everything else always comes back great but you know high crit not good on your liver and my ast/alt has been alittle high last couple of pulls. Only a couple of points out of range but still. Last bloods they were back in but mid cycle/blast and don't want to have to back up. So when I master Bass's tech I can get crit below 50 and keep it there. Just pulled mid bloods yesterday also so will see where I'm at soon.

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    I weighed out the options

    I don't need an added pain in my ass. Plus my woman is still in med school and is all happy go lucky to stab me with spikes.

    After first attempt I looked like I just got off a heron bender - with track marks on both arms & all bruised up.

    Can't go smaller than a 18ga spike and the tubing needs to be fairly thick.

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    You guys are way more hardcore than I am. Why not have you Dr. prescribe the theraputic dump?

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    Quote Originally Posted by kelkel View Post
    Why not just donate blood Tectime?
    the problem with me is they keep jabbing through the vein into my flesh, very painful and I end up with a huge bruise for weeks! they are damaging my vein and if I keep letting them do it I'll end up with a collapsed vein, and that would not look good! also using 18 gauge instead of 16 is much desirable!

    I think I'm going to invent a setup that is easy to use and will incorporate a vacuumed pump and use 21 gauge needle.

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    Quote Originally Posted by PistolPete33 View Post
    You guys are way more hardcore than I am. Why not have you Dr. prescribe the theraputic dump?

    I just took a dump and feel much better. That makes it a therapeutic dump!
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    Quote Originally Posted by tectime View Post
    my ast/alt has been alittle high last couple of pulls. Only a couple of points out of range but still.
    Don't worry about a few points at all. Simply working out will elevate those levels for up to 7-10 days. Mine are always elevated.

    Muscular exercise can cause highly pathological liver function tests in healthy men
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    Thanks Kel. Just looked at my new bloods that I just got back and everything is within range except of course testosterone level haha! Crit came in at 50.1 and estro at 16, alkaline phosphate 21 points high and bun and creatine alittle high which is always norm for me too. So looks like another great ride on the swell train ! Still looking forward to Bass's drain program! Get that crit under 50 ! Haha! Make room for some more !

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    Quote Originally Posted by tectime View Post
    Just looked at my new bloods that I just got back and everything is within range except of course testosterone
    As it should be.
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    My thing is, I never want to let it climb. It seems like a total pain pulling it back down.

    And like Bass's original video, the thickness of the blood is a bit scary to me.

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    Quote Originally Posted by < <Samson> > View Post
    My thing is, I never want to let it climb. It seems like a total pain pulling it back down.

    And like Bass's original video, the thickness of the blood is a bit scary to me.
    "Samson" I am just courious ? Are you currently doing your own blood draws and if yes , how long ? I am asking because I still have not ruled it out and wondered how many hicups you had when you 1st started and when did it become easy ?

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    Make sure you are well hydrated when doing the self bleed. I plugged up the tube a couple of times due to the blood being too thick. Also a couple of aspirin an hour or so prior helps a bunch. You can do it just take your time.

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    Quote Originally Posted by BuzzardMarinePumper
    "Samson" I am just courious ? Are you currently doing your own blood draws and if yes , how long ? I am asking because I still have not ruled it out and wondered how many hicups you had when you 1st started and when did it become easy ?
    My woman does it for me, having her makes this way easy

    But, it's not as bad as it sounds


    We fvcked up about a half dozen times. I looked like I recovering heroin junkie with track marks up & down my arms. We started off with smaller gauge spike & small tubing. That sucked ass - it got clogged way too fast when the blood started to coagulate. I finally found enough shit around the house to make the setup I have now.

    5 minutes or so and you're done - I don't think anything smaller than a 18ga is even worth the effort of trying.

    And on top of all this, my blood is super thin - it's not thick at all. Just the coagulation is so fast.

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    Quote Originally Posted by < <Samson> > View Post
    My woman does it for me, having her makes this way easy

    But, it's not as bad as it sounds


    We fvcked up about a half dozen times. I looked like I recovering heroin junkie with track marks up & down my arms. We started off with smaller gauge spike & small tubing. That sucked ass - it got clogged way too fast when the blood started to coagulate. I finally found enough shit around the house to make the setup I have now.

    5 minutes or so and you're done - I don't think anything smaller than a 18ga is even worth the effort of trying.

    And on top of all this, my blood is super thin - it's not thick at all. Just the coagulation is so fast.
    Thanks ! Hope Santa comes to see you tonight , lol !
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    Just readng over these comments, I just have a few questions if that's ok ?

    What compounds cause such a high blood count for this to happen that you actually need to drain ?

    Also how often do you do it ?

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