What is the difference between Testosterone undeconated and plain ole Cypionate ?

**BuzzardMarinePumper** · 12-21-2014, 12:09 PM

A freind of mine had what he called Testosterone undeconated and made a huge issue of how rare and great it is to find ?

What is special about it ?

**Gaspaco** · 12-21-2014, 12:36 PM

Its just very long ester used for TRT mainly, nothing special about it.

There is a pharma product called NEBIDO.

and also oil pill form called UNDESTOR.

**kelkel** · 12-21-2014, 12:42 PM

What Gaspaco said. Used for TRT to minimize injections. Nothing to cycle with. Just FDA approved in the US a year or so ago...

**BuzzardMarinePumper** · 12-21-2014, 01:46 PM

Originally Posted by kelkel

What Gaspaco said. Used for TRT to minimize injections. Nothing to cycle with. Just FDA approved in the US a year or so ago...

I have heard of Nebido and was very interested in it ? If I remember correctly is it like 500mg the 1st injection and the same after bw about 4 mths later ? ? ?

But the Nebido used in Europe is not used in the US from what I think we have discussed before ? What is the mg per ML of the US version of Nebido ? Please and could or would you do any additional gear while dosed with Nebido ? What is the whole life ? Since it is long acting with the whole life be different in different people ?

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**kelkel** · 12-21-2014, 04:47 PM

Same stuff just different amounts.

Europe is a 4ml 1000mg injection
USA is a 3ml 750mg injection

Protocol is an initial shot then a booster at 6 weeks. After that it's every 10 weeks based on BW. Basically about 5 shots per year.

**BuzzardMarinePumper** · 12-21-2014, 06:24 PM

Originally Posted by kelkel

Same stuff just different amounts.

Europe is a 4ml 1000mg injection
USA is a 3ml 750mg injection

Protocol is an initial shot then a booster at 6 weeks. After that it's every 10 weeks based on BW. Basically about 5 shots per year.

Wow so you could really get screwed up on that if self medicating and know your Dr. connection off if you went in for BW and were high ! I went 10 days with no Cypionate injections and I dropped from 1075 to 432 in 10 days so I guess if you stopped Cypionate injections 3 weeks away from BW you would get an accurate reading on the Nebido ?

Kel do you know anyone that has used it ? seems like the ; even 750mg all at one time would cause an estrogen spike out of this world ? I do not understand enough to see how it could be time release if it is an injection ? But hell I like to pin ! MOTIVATES ME

**Roger11** · 12-21-2014, 06:44 PM

many people i know have had success with reandron. MAny i know have shitcanned it after a while and went back to test e or Sus(here in australia still)..

its a hit and a miss for those. I will personally stick to test e unless im going on vacation for a while and can access my test.

**kelkel** · 12-21-2014, 07:12 PM

Originally Posted by BuzzardMarinePumper

Kel do you know anyone that has used it ? seems like the ; even 750mg all at one time would cause an estrogen spike out of this world ? I do not understand enough to see how it could be time release if it is an injection ? But hell I like to pin ! MOTIVATES ME

Personally I do not, although I was out to dinner with my Uro last week and he's recently put a few guys on it who are responding well. No estrogen spike to worry about in most cases due to it's very slow release. It's all in the ester. When I get tired of my protocol one day in the future I'll try it..

**BuzzardMarinePumper** · 12-21-2014, 10:31 PM

Originally Posted by kelkel

Personally I do not, although I was out to dinner with my Uro last week and he's recently put a few guys on it who are responding well. No estrogen spike to worry about in most cases due to it's very slow release. It's all in the ester. When I get tired of my protocol one day in the future I'll try it..

Thank you for your tempered and detailed response as usual !

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