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    Post Gyno won't go away with 60mg nolva

    So I ended my first cycle (500mg test + 40mg dbol ) 2 months ago.
    My pct sucked cause nolva and clomid were fake.
    But I didn't get gyno.
    Gyno appeared 3 weeks ago. I noticed pea size lump under my right nipple so I decided to get nolva. I didn't get it until 1 week ago. This nolva is not fake( it is astrazeneca).
    I started nolva at 60mg ed. Now I am at 8th day and lump didn't reduce size. I think it may just become bigger.
    I don't know what to do help mee.
    Should I get letro or just wait for week or two.

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    Rolaxafin would be my choice. Letro is strong and will crush your estrogen. Keep taking the nolva till you get the rolaxafin

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    Ralox or Letro

    Ralox works better than Nolvadex - sometimes

    Letro - will run you through the gutter, but works(for me at least)

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    I can't get ralox.
    I will go with letro.
    This is what Austinite said "This is not a quick process at all. Not even close. In some cases it can take up to 9 months, heck even longer. But... My experience was that I noticed a big difference around week 6, and was able to completely reverse it before the end of the 3rd month." on this sticky "Estrogen, Prolactin, Progesterone Management + Gynecomastia Prevention & Reversal"

    So maybe I should continue with nolva for maybe 2,3 weeks
    What do you think guys?

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    Continue the nolva for sure. Why can't you get rolax?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Bio-Active View Post
    Continue the nolva for sure. Why can't you get rolax?
    My dealer doesn't have it unfortunately.
    So nolva for 2 more weeks and then I will see what to do.

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    There's more than one dealer

    Get it from Ar-r

    I don't pvssy around when it comes to bitch tits. I bottomed out my estro with letro twice now. Still well worth it - moobs stopped cold in their tracks

    Yet, I was laid twice for a day+ each time

    It's your call, last time I had a very slight flare, I ran nolva and it subsided very quickly.

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    Quote Originally Posted by < <Samson> > View Post
    There's more than one dealer

    Get it from Ar-r

    I don't pvssy around when it comes to bitch tits. I bottomed out my estro with letro twice now. Still well worth it - moobs stopped cold in their tracks

    Yet, I was laid twice for a day+ each time

    It's your call, last time I had a very slight flare, I ran nolva and it subsided very quickly.
    After how much days did lump reduce size even a little bit.

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    This last time on Dex it only took a few days. The pain went away and the swelling stopped. The lumps are still there, sorta. But, barely noticeable.

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    Quote Originally Posted by < <Samson> > View Post
    This last time on Dex it only took a few days. The pain went away and the swelling stopped. The lumps are still there, sorta. But, barely noticeable.
    Wait.. what symptoms you had? Cause mine are : hard lump under right nipple and right nipple is a little bit swollen(left nipple is normal) but it doesn't hurt on touch and pressure.
    My lump isn't noticeable either but what concerns me is that lump still gets bigger.
    And did lump reduce size just a little?
    Thanks a lot for helping
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    Well, mine went like this - all times

    Lumps under both sides, not noticeable looking though. Painful on both sides & some puffiness.


    When it started to subside, the lumps got so small - I couldn't notice them pretty much at all any more & all of the nip swelling went down.


    The 2nd case, when I decided to jump on the letro. That shit fvcking hurt, I couldn't lay on my stomach.

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    Only surgery will get rid of true gyno once hard tissue has formed there's only one way.

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    Quote Originally Posted by marcus300 View Post
    Only surgery will get rid of true gyno once hard tissue has formed there's only one way.

    Truth

    You can only try to prevent flare up and or shrink the growths - but, they will never vanish




    After my first gyno flare up, I ran letro then Ralox. It felt like there was nothing left - Next cycle, that shit showed no mercy & just blew up over night when I started tren

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    Quote Originally Posted by Kuma123 View Post
    So I ended my first cycle (500mg test + 40mg dbol ) 2 months ago.
    My pct sucked cause nolva and clomid were fake.
    But I didn't get gyno.
    Gyno appeared 3 weeks ago. I noticed pea size lump under my right nipple so I decided to get nolva. I didn't get it until 1 week ago. This nolva is not fake( it is astrazeneca).
    I started nolva at 60mg ed. Now I am at 8th day and lump didn't reduce size. I think it may just become bigger.
    I don't know what to do help mee.
    Should I get letro or just wait for week or two.

    8 days is not enough time,,give it a 2-3 weeks and see where your at.

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    60mg is a big dose, never went that high. I would never risk a fake PCT, since its very easy to get it from local pharmacy simply by sending my GF.
    I still get better results with low dosed AI instead of mega dosed SERM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by XxAndreaxX View Post
    60mg is a big dose, never went that high. I would never risk a fake PCT, since its very easy to get it from local pharmacy simply by sending my GF.
    I still get better results with low dosed AI instead of mega dosed SERM.
    In my country nolva clomid and AIs doesn't sell without prescription

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    Quote Originally Posted by XxAndreaxX
    60mg is a big dose, never went that high. I would never risk a fake PCT, since its very easy to get it from local pharmacy simply by sending my GF.
    I still get better results with low dosed AI instead of mega dosed SERM.
    He had Gyno and he is not on a cycle. Are you saying that you would run an ai off cycle to treat Gyno? I hope not. Op continue with your serm

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    Quote Originally Posted by XxAndreaxX View Post
    I still get better results with low dosed AI instead of mega dosed SERM.
    I'm sure you are kidding , right?
    If not, cut the crap.

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    I found out it works for me. Its the first year I use AI in PCT, and its the first year I got rid 100% of a lump in one nip, and got the other one very small, and keeps my libido high. If crap or not, it works for me.

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    You need to gice it time. Dont even look at results till 8 weeks in. Id stick with the tamox or get some ralox from ar-r . This takes time man - it will not happen overnight if it is going to happen. Clinical studies using serms for gyno reversal run 6 months plus.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Kuma123 View Post
    So I ended my first cycle (500mg test + 40mg dbol ) 2 months ago.
    My pct sucked cause nolva and clomid were fake.
    But I didn't get gyno.
    Gyno appeared 3 weeks ago. I noticed pea size lump under my right nipple so I decided to get nolva. I didn't get it until 1 week ago. This nolva is not fake( it is astrazeneca).
    I started nolva at 60mg ed. Now I am at 8th day and lump didn't reduce size. I think it may just become bigger.
    I don't know what to do help mee.
    Should I get letro or just wait for week or two.
    avoid letro off cycle, look into ralox and the fact maybe it will be cut out if you really need it gone. good luck

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    Quote Originally Posted by jimmyinkedup View Post
    You need to gice it time. Dont even look at results till 8 weeks in. Id stick with the tamox or get some ralox from ar-r . This takes time man - it will not happen overnight if it is going to happen. Clinical studies using serms for gyno reversal run 6 months plus.
    This^^

    its not gonna happen in 2 weeks or something like that.

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    Quote Originally Posted by jimmyinkedup View Post
    You need to gice it time. Dont even look at results till 8 weeks in. Id stick with the tamox or get some ralox from ar-r. This takes time man - it will not happen overnight if it is going to happen. Clinical studies using serms for gyno reversal run 6 months plus.
    I though the lump is starting to reduce its size after about 1 week.
    What do you think about this. Run nolva 2more weeks 40mg ed. And I would really love to jump on another cycle. I was planning npp+dbol +test. So what do you think that after 2 weeks I jump on this cycle with 0.5mg arimidex ed and 20mg nolva (or low dose ralox if I buy it) through whole Cycle
    Cycle would be 1-4 dbol 40mg,1-12 test e 750mg,1-9 npp 400mg

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    Time for a other cycle? You still have issues right and you want to start another cycle?

    Finised your last cycle 2 months ago? Plus 4 weeks of PCT?

    time off =time on+pct at a minimum

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    Quote Originally Posted by jsam View Post
    Time for a other cycle? You still have issues right and you want to start another cycle?

    Finised your last cycle 2 months ago? Plus 4 weeks of PCT?

    time off =time on+pct at a minimum
    I finished pct 2 months ago.
    I don't have really puffy nipples and they doesn't hurt. Only thing I have is that lump under one nipple.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Kuma123 View Post
    I finished pct 2 months ago.
    I don't have really puffy nipples and they doesn't hurt. Only thing I have is that lump under one nipple.
    Personally Id work on the gyno before I complicated it by hopping on another cycle.

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    Quote Originally Posted by jimmyinkedup View Post
    Personally Id work on the gyno before I complicated it by hopping on another cycle.
    I agree with you. Its probably best..

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