First tren cycle

[tobias 34]

As stated above I'm wanting to start my first cycle of tren . Planning on running 75mg ed along with 500mg/week test C. Just looking for advice on this

[Haydenz]

Stats please,

age, cycle history,
wang size, <-- jokes.

[gold43]

As stated above....stats are needed.

So what is your question?? Lay out your complete proposed cycle. We can critique it and advise you of needed changes. So far ED Tren is the way to go.

[tobias 34]

22 5'9 180 lbs


15inch wang ......haha I wish

[chris_columbia]

22 5'9 180 lbs


15inch wang ......haha I wish

Body fat%

[Bio-Active]

Cycle experience to please?

[tobias 34]

About 10%

[tobias 34]

I've only ran 3 cycles first of course was only test. Second I ran test winstrol mastron. Third and current is test ran D-Bol first 4 weeks dropped deca after week 3 due to shutdown and feeling like shit now I'm just finishing up with test. Not wanting to start the tren untill end of February. Not really got any specific questions just not wanting to **** up

[lovbyts]

[tobias 34]

Well I guess I'd more go around the 15

[Bio-Active]

I've only ran 3 cycles first of course was only test. Second I ran test winstrol mastron. Third and current is test ran D-Bol first 4 weeks dropped deca after week 3 due to shutdown and feeling like shit now I'm just finishing up with test. Not wanting to start the tren untill end of February. Not really got any specific questions just not wanting to **** up

II can tell you this. I feel much better on deca then tren . You need to make sure you have pami or caber on hand whenever you run deca or Tren. Post up your proposed cycle including hcg ancillary s and pct for us to look at

[gold43]

Well I guess it's too late to tell you not to cycle at your age.
5'9" 180 @10% is pretty good. Not sure what you think your going to screw up? If your cycle history is legit, you should have a handle on things by now. Lay out your proposed cycle. Beginning to end including PCT and timing of all drugs.

[tobias 34]

I was planning on using caber. I guess that was going to be my next question what would be the dosages for caber?

[tobias 34]

And your right about the age I started way to young. Ran the test cycle when I was 19. I hope I didn't mess anything up long term that I'll have problems with in the future.

[Mp859]

That's a hefty dose for a first time tren user. I've used tren multiple times and 60mg ed is all that I need.

[tobias 34]

What would you suggest I start with?

[gold43]

50 ED, with Tren , less is more until you pick your LBM up. Too much Tren for your weight will make you lethargic. You will burn though calories faster than you can keep up with.

Caber dosed at .50 twice a week. Your first line of defense is controlling your E2.

[< <Samson> >]

I'm on 75mg Qd of tren ace now - it's definitely an acquired taste < if you have legit, well dosed gear


You're young and sound like someone who's not at 10% Bf

Post up a pic

But, I'd suggest taking it easy - run test, if anything with something mild(maybe).

You're in for a long haul, hormones will tear you up pretty hard. Tren is at the top of the list.

[Haydenz]

Samson is right man, if you want something far less harsh with the same properties as TREN look up another compound called npp , I'm a big fan of it and it's spot on for a intermediate user

[Battleplan]

50 ED, with Tren , less is more until you pick your LBM up. Too much Tren for your weight will make you lethargic. You will burn though calories faster than you can keep up with.

Caber dosed at .50 twice a week. Your first line of defense is controlling your E2.

100% agree on tren and caber doses. This is what I used on my first tren cycle and I had great results. Save the higher doses for down the track when 350 EW doesn't cut it.

[gold43]

Samson is right man, if you want something far less harsh with the same properties as TREN look up another compound called npp , I'm a big fan of it and it's spot on for a intermediate user

I am a huge fan of Trestolone Ace. It is far superior to Deca & NPP. I find it right on par with Tren . Bulking or cutting, it is my staple compound.

[< <Samson> >]

I am a huge fan of Trestolone Ace. It is far superior to Deca & NPP. I find it right on par with Tren. Bulking or cutting, it is my staple compound.

Oh yeah, agreed for sure

But, it's not for a beginner - it ain't that bad, but you have to be prepared to get the most out of it

[tobias 34]

So your suggesting I get my BF down before I try tren ?

[gold43]

What is your goal for this cycle? If your cutting, then you can jump right in. If your bulking, you should consider getting to about 12% first. Tren is highly spoke of. It is no joke. For some, the sides can be bad enough to make them never do it again. We are only urging you with caution. You can run Tren, but start low and keep it low. It doesn't take much. Or as others stated, look into some other compounds for intermediate users. Tren is for an advanced user for a good reason. 50mg ED Tren is MORE than enough to get you satisfying results. You want the Tren, then go for it. But it shuts you down hard. Run HCG the entire cycle. Im guessing that if you had to drop the Deca in a previous cycle, then Tren is going to whoop your ass!

[tobias 34]

Yes cutting is my goal in my next cycle. To be honest I think I may have go ahold of some bad gear on the deca it just made me have flue like symptoms and gave me knots even when using GSO with it. if the negative sides are too much for me then I'll simply drop it. This will be my last cycle for many years to come due that I'm leaving for buds. Just wanting to get in the best shape I can before hand also still slightly recovering from breaking my leg during the Summer got most my my strength back with the cycle I'm on now I just feel like adding tren to this final one will help me out a lot.

[Nobuddy]

Those are weird symptoms for Deca . I've never heard of that. Heard of "test flu", but never flu like symptoms from Deca. Then again, I'm REALLY lucky as far as sides, so maybe others have some idea if that is normal.

[Mp859]

Those are weird symptoms for Deca. I've never heard of that. Heard of "test flu", but never flu like symptoms from Deca. Then again, I'm REALLY lucky as far as sides, so maybe others have some idea if that is normal.

Is that you in your avatar?

[tobias 34]

What are the exact reasons I need to use the caber. Will this keep me from the after tren depression everyone talks about? I've done an extensive amount of reading on it but imfo from forums has always served me better

[Nobuddy]

Is that you in your avatar?

Lol, no. Back when I joined, folks were using their own buffed up photos for avatars I wanted to do something funny, but a member named "Skinny Kenny" already had a pic of an old man who weighed like 90# so I figured I'd go in the other direction. Hence the Chris Farley looking avatar :-)

[tobias 34]

What does PT 141 help with?

[kelkel]

Well I guess I'd more go around the 15

That pic gets everybody.....

[kelkel]

And your right about the age I started way to young. Ran the test cycle when I was 19. I hope I didn't mess anything up long term that I'll have problems with in the future.

Have you ever gotten blood work? If not, about 8 weeks after your upcoming pct you need to do so.

[< <Samson> >]

Oh, that Avi

[tobias 34]

Have you ever gotten blood work? If not, about 8 weeks after your upcoming pct you need to do so.

What should I get tested ?

[kelkel]

Since you've not had it done I'd be very thorough. See your doc, request a full physical. Take a look at the Finding A Doc sticky at the top of the HRT forum. There's a list of BW in there. If insurance won't cover it then take a look at private md labs .com or similar where you can get BW done without a doc's script.

[tobias 34]

Alright thanks definitely will get bloods done before even considering tren . Last question tho could someone explain to me the reason for needing the caber ?

[Haydenz]

Tren messes with your prolactin levels meaning your wang will fall asleep for a long time while cycling with tren

[< <Samson> >]

Tren messes with your prolactin levels meaning your wang will fall asleep for a long time while cycling with tren

Not when I managed, for me at least

I get the opposite while running test, tren & mast

I am a walking raging boner after a weeks on

[tobias 34]

Oh ok I thought it was something psychological that it helped you with