it took me much longer but it came out much better than my first try.. here it is what do u think..
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it took me much longer but it came out much better than my first try.. here it is what do u think..
Looks like golden goodness
I use no heat instructions all the time, i like them
Good job,post your cycle journa!
thx bro, i am 4 weeks in to fina/prop/winny cycle ( 12 wks total) but i just wanted to make more fina for next year hehe, i like playin mad chemist..Quote:
Originally posted by Buddha_Red
Looks like golden goodness
I use no heat instructions all the time, i like them
Good job,post your cycle journa!
I'd like to see his method. Could you give me a link plz? thx
http://www.massmonsterz.com/forum/sh...threadid=10671
everyone keeps emailing me asking for the directions, so heres the email i sent to onamission. its not so much of a how to get clear fina, its more of a how to get the highest yield from the experiment. if all your after is just clear fina, just dont use heat. thats all you gotta do.
also i wanted to add one thing, when i did this myself it was summer time, the pellets dissolved quickly during the heatwave. i tried it again in the winter, and it took days. so if you absolutely cant put it behind the bookshelf and let them dissolve over a few days, might want to crush them to speed it up, just do it carefully so you dont lose any powder, crush inside the vial for best results.
ive been wanting to do my own pictures of a tren conversion, simply because i dont agree with any of the currently posted pictures and methods. also the instructions are not thourough at all imo, people still ask tons of questions which means the guide only helped, imo it should tell you everything and leave almost no questions. mine will show everybody how to get crystal clear fina everytime but will take a lot of writing and pictures to do it. when i have time im gonna....
but do this, assuming a 4g kit.
dont crush pellets just let em dissolve, swirl it now and then, dont use any heat. may take a while or overnight, depends on lots of things. as soon as you cant see any pellet bits anymore your done. dont stick anything in there like a glass rod or anything, not neccesary and will waste precious fina
set about 1/2 the oil aside, not just 5ml, half of all of it(should be about 20ml give or take). add 1/2 to the solvent pellet mix when dissolved. dont add the solv to the oil, do oil to the solvent. swirl it for a few min, dont shake.
let it sit for a few hrs or preferably overnight. this will let the gunk settle real good, and will make coffee filtering easier and less wastefull.
get a small funnel. cut a coffee fitler down about almost 1/2 the orig size. put in the funnel. not too small though.
take some of the oil you set aside and pre wet the CF. this is so it wont soak up the fina/oil, which would cause waste of it did. this way it soaks up useless sterile oil instead of fina oil. and cutting it smaller just means it wont be able to soak up as much oil period, wether it be finaoil or clean oil.
now suck up the clear fina/oil, leave the gunk. be carefull not to get any gunk sucked up yet, we will take care of that in a min. its ok to leave a tiny bit of oil on top of the gunk to ensure you dont suck any unk up. filter the clear oil through the CF. slowly add it so it doesnt fill the whole CF up, just a lil at a time.
now take 5ml of the oil you set aside and add it to the gunk. SHAKE. now let it settle, this should only take a few min to settle mostly.
again draw up just the clear oil and run it through the cf.
repeat this untill you only have roughly 7ml of clean sterile oil left, cause we still need 5ml to purge the sterile filter at the end.
dump all the gunk into the cf when your down to your remaining 7ml of clean oil. now put 2 ml more clean oil back in the vial which had the gunk, swirl or shake, what your trying to do is get all the gunk into the coffee filter now so it can drain. let it drain for about an 30min, it will go very slow.
then carefully wring the CF out so you squeeze the last few drops of oil into the funnel. BE CAREFULL not to break the CF and spill the gunk into the funnel. dont worry your hands will not contaminate it, just wash your hands before you do this, you dont need to try and sterilize your hands or use plastic baggies on your hands or any of that shit, nothing is sterile yet so its futile trying to keep it sterile.
now we sterile filter the oil into the sealed sterile vial. this may take a while, dont press to hard, some of these people who say they have cloudy tren or shit floating in it were pressing too hard and blew the filter. pressing extremely hard doesnt really save but a few minutes anyway so dont do it. too much pressure can also distort the walls inside the filter and cause some oil to bypass the filter, even if you dont outright blow the thing. youll know if you blew it youll have crap floating around, or if its cloudy. Also NEVER draw oil back through the filter in the wrong direction. This will ruin the filter instantly.
when thats all done now push air through the sterile filter a few times. it will look like your pushing gunk into your vial but your not, whats happening is the filter is aerating the oil making it look white and foamy. it will go away by itself and is perfectly normal.
after not much oil comes out anymore, just mostly air( a good ml or so of oil should have been pushed out by your psuhing air through it), now run the 5ml of sterile oil you have remaining through the filter. then push air though one more time to get as much oil as possible into the vial, leaving as little oil as poss in the sterile filter.
your done.
there is ba in the solvent, and ba sterilzes all by itself. the sterile filter also sterilizes by filtering out bacteria, and also filters out particles and gunk. this is important cause even thoguh the ba will sterilize it all byt itself, if you have particles in there, they can give you an infection still. imagine injecting an eyebrow or peice of lint you cant see...thats why we use the sterile filter.
assuming we didnt use the sterile filter at all, the ba will kill all the bacteria within about 2 days at room temp. but we did use a sterile filter so theres no bacteria in there for it to kill, thus we are now 100% sterile and particle free.
if you still must bake... set the oven to 170-200f. bake for 15min then immediately put into the fridge untill its cooler than room temp, but not the freezer, thats too cold. thats it. rapid changing of temp usually kills bacteria better than heat alone.
do not vent the vial when putting it in the oven, this will contribute to oxidation which degrades fina and makes it that dark red color. use a clean syringe and needle to suck all the air out, just keep drawing 3ml of air out of the vial a bunch of times. this will create a vaccuum inside the vial. with little to no air inside, it wil oxidize less when heated, and eliminates the need to vent pressure, cause theres no air to build pressure from the heat, so it cant explode. but i wouldnt heat or bake at all, no matter what it will still oxidize
wow that was deep :) good directions!
I wouldn't use it BullFX, it looks blurry. :lol:
Just kidding, good luck with it.