it's almost time, first cycle (blast). critique welcome.

**hawk14dl** · 03-01-2015, 12:39 PM

Right off the bat; I'm on trt. So there will be no pct.

Stats
29 years old
6'1
190lb
15%bf
lifting 3 years, diagnosed with low t about 1 year ago. Trt for a little over A year now.

My goals for the cycle: I'll be aiming for a recomp. I know most people don't like to recomp, but I believe my bf% is too high to bulk, and I hate to cut. I believe if I end at 190-195 @ 12% I'd be happy.
I'm also focusing quite a bit on strength training as opposed to strict hypertrophy training.

Anyways, here's the layout
wks 1-12 150mg test c (trt dose), 250mg test e.
Trt dose 250iu hcg 2x a wk
Wks 1-14 .25mg adex day after injection (I don't take ai with my trt)

I'm keeping dosage low, because I'd like to make more progress then normal, but I don't want it to be too obvious. If that makes sense.

I'm open to suggestions and ideas. Gear won't be here for a couple of weeks.

**NACH3** · 03-01-2015, 12:57 PM

For a recomp what other compounds do you have experience with?

**hawk14dl** · 03-01-2015, 01:06 PM

First cycle. I'm on trt,only experience I have is test

**hawk14dl** · 03-01-2015, 01:08 PM

Let me take that back. I've used albuterol and t3 before. Albuterol shot my bp out of control and t3 never seemed to do anything for me

**NACH3** · 03-01-2015, 01:14 PM

Ok... That's why I was asking! Gotcha! It mY be harder(but diet and training will dictate your results... As you know) to do a full recomp w/test but can be done on TRT... IMO! But if you have the experience w/test maybe try backloading var?! I say backload b/c you'll be dropping bf while maintaining muscle tissue!

Can you front or backload? I mean do you have BW coming if so when? I lprefer to backload w/orals... And var will give you strength while dropping BF but get that bf down to 12 or lower to see vars full effects(NAC for liver if you do)... At 15% it'll be a waste and you'll be very unhappy w.end results! Just food for thought)...?!

**hawk14dl** · 03-01-2015, 01:18 PM

The blast will end about 2 months before my next bw.

I agree that var would be a waste at my current bf. Plus it's just too damn expensive, and I feel like I can achieve everything I want through a simple test cycle.

**NACH3** · 03-01-2015, 01:29 PM

Originally Posted by hawk14dl

The blast will end about 2 months before my next bw.

I agree that var would be a waste at my current bf. Plus it's just too damn expensive, and I feel like I can achieve everything I want through a simple test cycle.

That's great to hear that! You know your body and how it reacts w/test only and I agree if everything is in check diet/training wise I don't see why you can't either... Keep in mind it's going to be a difficult recomp though(as most use other kinds of compounds etc)... T3 could definitely work alongside your test?

**hawk14dl** · 03-01-2015, 01:49 PM

I'd been considering giving t3 another try. So I can consider that

**NACH3** · 03-01-2015, 01:55 PM

Originally Posted by hawk14dl

I'd been considering giving t3 another try. So I can consider that

Yeah o mean there's really not many other options w/a test only but I still get good gAins on test only and just feel so much better! Diet/training and cardio will be your best friend lol

**Buster Brown** · 03-01-2015, 01:58 PM

Well.......I don't know how much size you will actually put on but you shouldn't have any problem leaning out. Good luck

**lovbyts** · 03-02-2015, 09:44 AM

Looks fine to me.

**kelkel** · 03-02-2015, 10:29 AM

You may be a tad low on your AI. Monitor and pull BW @ 6 weeks or so.

**hawk14dl** · 03-02-2015, 11:56 AM

Thanks kel.

I've decided to start with the low ai dose because of the low dose of the cycle. Taking into consideration I don't need it on trt, I figured a low dose to start would be better then bottoming it out.

Bw at 6 weeks is planned, mainly to ensure the test is actually test. But to also adjust ai if necessary

**kelkel** · 03-02-2015, 12:09 PM

Definitely do your testing. When you up your dose all things can change dramatically. Linear goes out the window.

**dirtle90** · 03-02-2015, 12:15 PM

Throw in 400 mg equipoise for 12 weeks. There are little to no sides and it is perfect to run with test. It will be solid gains that you will keep long After the end of your cycle. You won't blow up and obviously look like your on steroids . Throw in nolvadex at 20 mg Ed 2 weeks after cycle and your golden. Just running a cycle with test that low will not yield much result.

**hawk14dl** · 03-02-2015, 12:18 PM

Kel, understood. Thank you, as always.

Dirtle, no. Thanks anyways.

**Red Bastard** · 03-02-2015, 01:24 PM

Originally Posted by dirtle90

Throw in 400 mg equipoise for 12 weeks. There are little to no sides and it is perfect to run with test. It will be solid gains that you will keep long After the end of your cycle. You won't blow up and obviously look like your on steroids. Throw in nolvadex at 20 mg Ed 2 weeks after cycle and your golden. Just running a cycle with test that low will not yield much result.

Pretty sloppy advice, IMHO...

But hey, if yer golden, then it's all good, eh, bro?

**kelkel** · 03-02-2015, 02:18 PM

Originally Posted by dirtle90

You won't blow up and obviously look like your on steroids.

Then what's the point? If you're doing steroids and people can't tell, you're doing it wrong.

**Buster Brown** · 03-02-2015, 02:23 PM

Originally Posted by dirtle90

Throw in 400 mg equipoise for 12 weeks. There are little to no sides and it is perfect to run with test. It will be solid gains that you will keep long After the end of your cycle. You won't blow up and obviously look like your on steroids. Throw in nolvadex at 20 mg Ed 2 weeks after cycle and your golden. Just running a cycle with test that low will not yield much result.

Huh? This is not a good plan. Nov for 2 weeks? Really? Eq must be one of the worst compounds to pin, there are so many better choices.

**hawk14dl** · 03-02-2015, 02:51 PM

Yeah, if I were to add an injectable it would be Deca . But since this will be my first time, I'm keeping it basic.

Second cycle will likely add an oral. Third will prob be Deca. Fourth may be an oral and Deca. I don't know, simple seems better

**Buster Brown** · 03-02-2015, 03:26 PM

Originally Posted by hawk14dl

Yeah, if I were to add an injectable it would be Deca . But since this will be my first time, I'm keeping it basic.

Second cycle will likely add an oral. Third will prob be Deca. Fourth may be an oral and Deca. I don't know, simple seems better

Yup, cross one bridge at a time. More isn't always better.

**hawk14dl** · 03-21-2015, 08:26 PM

Just to update.

I was expecting my order to arrive yesterday. It came Today instead, no big deal.

I went ahead and pinned my first two pins with my rx gear. I had extra and I trusted my source.

I've changed my cycle layout, it will be:
250mg/ 2x wk
.25 adex eod.
75mcg t3 ed
5mg albuterol ed (Low to avoid bp issues ).

Side note, did my injections in the quads. I've done plenty, but with a full 1ml.. I'm experiencing virgin muscle all over again. It's weird to feel sore the next day again.

**reporich** · 03-22-2015, 01:56 AM

Originally Posted by dirtle90

Throw in 400 mg equipoise for 12 weeks. There are little to no sides and it is perfect to run with test. It will be solid gains that you will keep long After the end of your cycle. You won't blow up and obviously look like your on steroids. Throw in nolvadex at 20 mg Ed 2 weeks after cycle and your golden. Just running a cycle with test that low will not yield much result.

Eq needs to be run at 600 mg at least and for 16-20 weeks.