my mid June cycle

[jolter604]

I like the npp allot, if I don't get sprung on the tren I will go back to the npp. Eq never again. If I win the lottery I will try some primo. I have npp at 150 mg it's a little thick but it usually comes in 100 mg if I run it again I will go for 600 mg npp instead of 450 mg. On another forum some people were trying to prove nandralone doesn't help joints, but why do my shoulders feel so good?????they were also debating caber or prami for having any benefit.

[jolter604]

My last day of dbol I had 5 left popped them all and killed chest. If I ever run dbol again I will go 50 instead of 40 mg I still have 4 weeks of npp and 8 weeks of test e. I will get a blood test in a couple weeks to make sure I'm gtg

[NACH3]

How ya likin it so far? What type of gains have you had? Gotta be blown up from the d-Bol, huh? Good strength gains?

[jolter604]

I was up to 220 but I started ten hour days Now I'm back yo 8 but the building I'm in is around 95 degrees and real humid. I come home soaking wet. I just weighed in at 216.my strength and size has increased And fat is down. I sweat on test like people talk about on tren . I have to change my sheets eod. My wife hates it. Bit I love dbol , npp and of course test. I got my next cycle already for next run. I have 125 mg of tren ace 150 masteron prop and 100 or test p for eod injection for ten weeks and 400 pills of 10 mg turanibol. I'm thinking 8 weeks at 80 mg. It's all pharmacon I will get bloods to see how it is. If I do not like tren I will just keep running npp with test.

[kelkel]

I sweat on test like people talk about on tren. I have to change my sheets eod. My wife hates it.

Sleep on a heavy beach towel. When you wake up in the middle of the night toss it and you're back to dry sheets. Temporarily at least!

[NACH3]

Sleep on a heavy beach towel. When you wake up in the middle of the night toss it and you're back to dry sheets. Temporarily at least!

Yes this - I do too Jolter same - every time!

[jolter604]

I'm going to sleep in a kitty pool when I do my tren .

[tectime]

I like to sleep up in the kitty ! But not the kitty pool ! Hahaha!

[NACH3]

I like to sleep up in the kitty ! But not the kitty pool ! Hahaha!

Hahahahaha

[jolter604]

Well my back and shoulders have cleared up sense stopping the Dianbol but I lost those crazy pumps. I would get a full workout pump in two sets. Pretty amazing stuff.

[jolter604]

Now I'm debating on using tren ace after my npp runs out just five weeks worth making it a 15 week cycle. Any feedback I would lower my test to 300g a week and tren 400 mg

[tectime]

You will more than likely love that decision. With the clearing time of that ester adding the tren in will be sweet. That's my fav way to add tren in except my deca stays with me awhile after I switch to tren. That's also where I run my tes at at that point. I've run all three together but don't like the after shock. Results the same but the end of the threesome is just to rough.

[tectime]

Oh and I like tren at 75mg eod for eight weeks but my blast time is almost always 20 wks. Then back to my hrt tes/deca till its time again. Haven't added tren for several blasts but after being reminded how it makes you look after seeing that one dude that's 54.

[jolter604]

Oh and I like tren at 75mg eod for eight weeks but my blast time is almost always 20 wks. Then back to my hrt tes/deca till its time again. Haven't added tren for several blasts but after being reminded how it makes you look after seeing that one dude that's 54.

I only have test e so I will run my tren ace after last shot of test e I'm thinking 4 days before pct. I'm thinking on using test p with test e as a kick start and kick end so I can run it right up to pct.

[jolter604]

Went and got blood work today, I will post results

[jolter604]

Throwing this to the end of my cycle
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[jolter604]

Here is my blood test I ate 5 hours before but that could not effect the test level this much.

[jolter604]

[jolter604]

[Mr.BB]

No prolactin values? Its good to test on a tren cycle.

Would reduce the AI as it seems you have low E2.

Would be very good idea to donate blood with that hemotocrit and high platelet count.

[jolter604]

No prolactin values? Its good to test on a tren cycle.

Would reduce the AI as it seems you have low E2.

Would be very good idea to donate blood with that hemotocrit and high platelet count.

Rite Now I'm on 600 mg test e and 450 npp and my total test was only 2700 is that not bad?

[Mr.BB]

Rite Now I'm on 600 mg test e and 450 npp and my total test was only 2700 is that not bad?

Cant answer that question. Too many variables, when was last shot? UGL? Etc etc... Its a very individual thing imo.

[jolter604]

Cant answer that question. Too many variables, when was last shot? UGL? Etc etc... Its a very individual thing imo.

I was shooting. 75 cc of alpha pharma test e m, w, f.

[The Deadlifting Dog]

I would say your test is underdosed if you are using 600mg of test E per week and your total test is 2700.

How do you get 600mg per week by shooting .75ml m,w,f?

[jolter604]

I would say your test is underdosed if you are using 600mg of test E per week and your total test is 2700.

How do you get 600mg per week by shooting .75ml m,w,f?

If it's 250 mg. .75 or 3/4 cc 1 1/2 cc a week would be 200 180 mg x 3 =600mg no?and it was 2764 total test.

[The Deadlifting Dog]

If it's 250 mg. .75 or 3/4 cc 1 1/2 cc a week would be 200 180 mg x 3 =600mg no?and it was 2764 total test.

.75ml x 250mg/ml = 187.5mg
187.5mg x 3 injections per week = 562.5mg per week

[jolter604]

.75ml x 250mg/ml = 187.5mg
187.5mg x 3 injections per week = 562.5mg per week

I stand corrected

[free_at_last]

Throwing this to the end of my cycle
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that's a pic of tren enanthate bro. just sayin' cause you were talking about doing tren acetate, but you snapped a photo of tren-e. two completely different things. don't look for immediate results with that...will definitely take weeks to kick in....not days like with tren-a.

[AR's King Silabolin]

18 weeks 600 test, u crazy? ...What do you do to manage your blood cells? Hct wasnt that high good into your heavy ass cycle.

[jolter604]

that's a pic of tren enanthate bro. just sayin' cause you were talking about doing tren acetate, but you snapped a photo of tren-e. two completely different things. don't look for immediate results with that...will definitely take weeks to kick in....not days like with tren-a.

Yeah I have some ace on the way from mass builder, and I had a pharmacon tren ace too.

[NACH3]

18 weeks 600 test, u crazy? ...What do you do to manage your blood cells? Hct wasnt that high good into your heavy ass cycle.

It's called donating or self blood letting!

Hes running a heavy cycle - but timed his orals ok(coulda been better Jolter) imo I would've pulsed them(drol/& d-Bol together) or kick w/one and backload the other! Finish strong! Adding the ACE will be ok - but northern tren e! Would be wayyyy Too long of a cycle!

What wk you in?? When you adding your ace? How much ed or eod... I'd pin ed w/it

[jolter604]

I am One week into the ace, Week 10 of cycle... I will stop around 18 and get more blood work and donate. I like drol and dbol but I am going to stick with tbol or no orals at all I was taking 1200 mg of nac and milk thistle with a ton of water a day. . And I think I'm going for shorter cycles with short esters.so far the only sides from the tren is sweating ,I have been taking. 25 of prami a night so I sleep pretty good. Yesterday it took me at least 20 more minutes to get my workout, I had to rest more. Think it's the tren.i have been pinning gluts m, w, quads f, Saturday so my legs are not sore Monday. But I think I found my sweet spot in my quads. And I'm pinning 100 mg at a time tren. With 75 mg test e

[NACH3]

What's your dex dose?? Your E2 is low on BW so I'm thinking if you dropped your test to 75mgs(should be eod at min not MON WED FRI - that's me tho)
225mgs wkly test - tren won't aromatize so watch crashing your E2

[jolter604]

What's your dex dose?? Your E2 is low on BW so I'm thinking if you dropped your test to 75mgs(should be eod at min not MON WED FRI - that's me tho)
225mgs wkly test - tren won't aromatize so watch crashing your E2

Im using aromasin 12.5 2x a day. I'm mixing the test and tren m, w, f And tren solo on Saturday. That way I can ping gluts m, w, and quads, f, Saturday.

[NACH3]

Im using aromasin 12.5 2x a day. I'm mixing the test and tren m, w, f And tren solo on Saturday. That way I can ping gluts m, w, and quads, f, Saturday.

And I'm guessing you were taking 25mgs of Stane ed while running 600mgs of test and still had low E(on very low end of range) you don't think that on 225mgs wkly that may be too much?? Idk how you react to test to Estro conversion - but judging by BW id get some after 2wks to check your E2 and PRO... I don't think your PRO will be elevated as your Estro is lower... Just thinking out loud - do your joints hurt anymore

[jolter604]

Nah my joints are cool, I might lower my state a bit.

[jolter604]

that's a pic of tren enanthate bro. just sayin' cause you were talking about doing tren acetate, but you snapped a photo of tren-e. two completely different things. don't look for immediate results with that...will definitely take weeks to kick in....not days like with tren-a.

[jolter604]

Definitely feeling the tren , at first I felt like I had to rest more between sets but upped my eod day dose to 125 mg and I blew through my chest workout like I was drol or dbol again. Amazing stuff.

[jolter604]

Now I am getting rash like stretch marks for a couple days after I work out a muscle. Like I did biceps Saturday and it's Monday and I still have red patch by the peek and upper triceps.

[TheTaxMan]

Enjoying reading your thread any before/progress pics?