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07-01-2015, 03:52 PM #1Junior Member
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1st Cycle, Test only, Opinions Welcome!
I've been thinking of my first cycle and want to get some critique, so that you can make me aware if I am missing anything. Here are my current stats:
I'm 25 years old male
5'4"" tall
140 lbs
15-17% body fat estimated.. (Would cut down before starting cycle for estrogen, insulin sensitivity, and to be in a overall better starting place)
I want to have a simple yet effective first cycle
I've been training since I was 19.. I've been consistently training to this day, I take all aspects seriously, any feedback of any sorts is welcome!
Here is my cycle proposal:
Week 1 to 12: Test E @ 400mg per week. (200mg twice weekly)
Week 1 to 12: hCG @ 250 IU twice weekly
Week 1 to 13: Aromasin @ as needed
Including
Fish oil (3g EFA)
600mg NAC/daily
For PCT I was thinking:
I'll take two weeks off after last injection and then PCT with Clomid @ 75/50/50/50 and Nolva @ 40/20/20/20
OR run a TRT dose because I recently got blood work (because I was tired and sluggish, no libido, and found out I have low T... 287ng/dL) it could be way lower but I still feel symptoms
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07-01-2015, 04:20 PM #2
Aromasin you need to take 12.5mgs per day, not as needed, and take till the day before PCT.
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07-01-2015, 04:46 PM #3
Mr. BB I agree with you aromasin should be taking from beginning of cycle and not as needed. But I feel 12.5mg is just a starting point. Blood work should be done half way through cycle or a little before to make sure starting A.I dose is effective at keeping estrogen in range. Personally I find 25mg ED more effective(but will vary greatly depending on the dose and the individual) Just my 2 cents
Last edited by michael30; 07-01-2015 at 04:51 PM.
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07-01-2015, 05:11 PM #4
^^^ Agreed, thats the wisest way
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07-01-2015, 06:04 PM #5Junior Member
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07-02-2015, 12:58 AM #6
What tests have you had done to try and find the cause of your seemingly low Test levels?
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07-02-2015, 04:02 AM #7Junior Member
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07-02-2015, 06:03 PM #9Junior Member
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07-03-2015, 01:05 AM #10
No previous steroid or pro hormone use?
Your LH is low and your FSH is on the low side.
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07-03-2015, 07:57 AM #11Junior Member
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Originally Posted by Back In BlackLast edited by mussina123; 07-03-2015 at 08:34 AM.
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07-03-2015, 08:47 AM #12
Cortisol is also high, which has an effect on test.
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07-03-2015, 09:32 AM #13
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07-03-2015, 09:42 AM #14Junior Member
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07-03-2015, 02:25 PM #16Junior Member
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07-04-2015, 06:12 AM #17
The cortisol was high - but not crazy high, which can happen sometimes with adenomas, so it's harder to say. Maybe you have an adenoma that is only secreting a bit of cortisol, or maybe it's an artifact of being late for your blood draw and dashing to get there, or being a little nervous around needles or something.
I raised it because if it's chronically slightly elevated due to stress it will carry on and create effects in lots of areas. It will likewise be bad for you if your adenoma is secreting a bit of cortisol raising levels generally.
Let's see what the new result is, maybe it will be fine.
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07-04-2015, 09:36 AM #18Junior Member
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07-05-2015, 04:51 PM #19Junior Member
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Updated tests and results...
Endo's goal was after taking levothyroxine to get pituruaty working and producing more LH & FSH thus a higher testosterone level.. but after a month on the meds it doesn't really look like that happened... Any opinions on my test results??
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07-05-2015, 05:09 PM #20
Why was the test range dropped on the second test?
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07-05-2015, 05:14 PM #21Junior Member
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That's the confusing part... They were diff labs, but it shouldn't matter in the end right? its in the same units and everything.. ng/dL..
second time the overall number was lower, but in the "normal" range based on the other reference ranges.. but the first test was lower than the range
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07-06-2015, 12:54 AM #22
I'd post all these details in the hrt forum you will get some more specific advice.
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07-06-2015, 07:34 AM #23Junior Member
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