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    Randy91 is offline New Member
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    low test - contest 9 weeks away

    I am wanting to do a bodybuilding contest in 9 weeks, do i start cycle on 7th with low bloods?

    I went and got bloods done and test was at 3.2nmol/L reference (8-27.9)
    Oestadiol 27pmol/L reference (28-156)

    AGE 24
    Height 5 11"
    weight 180lbs
    body fat 7%

    cycle history - 1 cycle - 600mg test e 12 weeks
    PCT Nolva 40/40/20/20

    do i run another pct and try recover natural test before running another cycle? I May not have time to get back on test before contest?
    or do i start on test e 500mg/week and do a long pct after contest?
    HCG 500iu ed 10 days
    Clomid 150/150/100/100/50
    Nolva 60/40/40/20/20

    thanks

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    numbere is offline RETIRED- Knowledgeable member
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    What were you LH and FSH levels?

    What was the value of your free test?

    Will you post all of your test results?

    How long ago did your PCT end?

    You should find out the cause of your hypogonadism before considering another cycle.

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    Alright, I just read your post history. Looks like you began your cycle at age 23 when you were suffering from low t (6.8nmol/L).

    Normally I would advise someone in your position to use Michael Scally's Power PCT minus the hcg . However, this program is long time to be on SERM therapy when you're 24 and not sure what's causing the hypogonadism.

    I think you should make an appointment with the best urologist in your area and have a conversation about your history and Scally's PCT regimen.

    Below is a link to Scally's book. You should it a solid read and if your doctor isn't already familiar with Scally's work then you can show them the enclosed study and synopsys.

    A Question of Muscle: Human Subject Abuses in Anabolic Steroid Research
    Last edited by numbere; 08-03-2015 at 09:02 AM.

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    Cutting very lean natural is quite possibly worse for hpta than using tren year round.

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    Skip your contest and follow Numbere's advice. There's always another contest....
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    Testosterone 3.2nmol/L LOW reference (8-27.9)
    SHBG. 22nmol/L reference (18-54
    FAI 15 LOW reference (38.7-91.7)
    Free Testosterone 73.7pmol/L LOW reference (243-571)

    FSH 1U/L LOW reference (2-12)
    LH 2U/L reference (2-9)
    Oestradiol <25pmol/L LOW reference(28-156)

    thanks for your help so far guys, here is the rest of my bloodtest results

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    numbere is offline RETIRED- Knowledgeable member
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    You should still go see a specialist for a proper diagnosis and find out why your hormone levels are so low.

    I don't think you should self medicate or run another cycle until you get these health issues straightened out.

    Hopefully it will help you sleep better to know that those who have the highest rate of success with HPTA reset, from SERM therapy, begin with very low LH and FSH.

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    do you guys think i should compete without gear, maybe run some clen ?
    or skip this comp?

    thanks

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    Quote Originally Posted by Randy91 View Post
    do you guys think i should compete without gear, maybe run some clen ?
    or skip this comp?

    thanks
    Man i'd say all signs are pointing towards not doing this contest...If you're already in good shape and you're only a couple weeks out maybe just train hard and go into it naturally and try not to eat in too much of a deficit..But if you're not dead set on this contest all signs are pointing towards not doing the contest and giving the doctors a visit

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    Quote Originally Posted by Randy91 View Post
    do you guys think i should compete without gear, maybe run some clen ?
    or skip this comp?

    thanks
    Skip this comp there will always be more down the road.

    You should start worrying about your health more. The only thing you should be putting into your body right now is food.

    Not to put you down, but my 10 year old niece is probably producing more test than you are now. You have a serious health issue that needs immediate attention.
    Last edited by numbere; 08-03-2015 at 08:37 PM.

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