Cycle comments - Test E & Tren E

[Kramer33]

just saw the pics you added in your original post. dude, you are f'ing jacked...forearms and traps are sick!!

two questions....

1) how much test did you decide to run?
2) are you gonna keep this thread going as a log so we can all follow your progress?

1. 300 mg per week, 150mg pinned twice weekly
2. Yes. I'll try to keep you posted. I'll get my wife to try and take pics. I hate selfies. There's no masculine way to take a selfie.

Thanks for the compliments. It's funny, I never work firearms, and I only do 3 sets of shrugs per week because they grow so easily. Genetics, man. I need to lose my love handles, but I've been growing them for 15 years and they are stubborn!

[Kramer33]

I ended up receiving TRENBOLONE HEXAHYDROBENZYLCARBONATE from my source instead of Enanthate . How will that affect my pinning? From what I understand, it's basically Parabolan ? Do I still need 200 - 300mg weekly?

It is British Dragon Tranabol 100mg in a 25ml bottle. Not sure if it's good or not. I'm doing some research online and its 50/50 on real or fake.

[Kramer33]

I just posted a two week progress pic to my OP. I'm a little bummed that I look EXACTLY the same, but I should get started on the Tren this weekend. Then LOOK OUT!

I will dial in the diet a little tighter this weekend and add 20 minutes of cardio 4x weekly. That should help cut me up some more.

[FONZY007]

I ended up receiving TRENBOLONE HEXAHYDROBENZYLCARBONATE from my source instead of Enanthate . How will that affect my pinning? From what I understand, it's basically Parabolan ? Do I still need 200 - 300mg weekly?

It is British Dragon Tranabol 100mg in a 25ml bottle. Not sure if it's good or not. I'm doing some research online and its 50/50 on real or fake.

Im 100% positive but british dragon no longer in business. And if you got Parabolan for the price of tren E then you got a steal my friend

[AR's King Silabolin]

[QUOTE=free_at_last;7096680]just saw the pics you added in your original post. dude, you are f'ing jacked...forearms and traps are sick!! i'm telling you, you're gonna absolutely LOVE the tren . it'll completely shred you (with diet in check of course, which sounds like it is). you're gonna lose all that water and see veins where you didn't know they existed. by wk 6 people are gonna ask if you have a garden hose wrapped around your body underneath your clothes due to the insane vascularity. by wk 9 people will ask you if you're on 'roids. and, sadly, by week 12 you'll realize you're done with your cycle and wish it could go on forever!

two questions....

1) how much test did you decide to run?
2) are you gonna keep this thread going as a log so we can all follow your progress?

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Agree, Mr Kramer looks like a natty Levrone but bigger

[TheTaxMan]

My source also supplies British Dragon

The only do;
Tren A,
Tren E,
Trii Tren (tren e/ tren a/ tren hex)

They have good reviews from what ive read. Keep us update, follwoing this thread

[free_at_last]

It is British Dragon Tranabol 100mg in a 25ml bottle. Not sure if it's good or not. I'm doing some research online and its 50/50 on real or fake.

uh oh...that's no bueno. did your source make an honest mistake and simply send you the wrong thing, or did they screw you?

[Kramer33]

uh oh...that's no bueno. did your source make an honest mistake and simply send you the wrong thing, or did they screw you?

No. I just read that there is a lot of British Dragon counterfeits out there. He said it's the real stuff, and I trust him. He takes the same Tren and he said it's real.

[Kramer33]

Today after shoulder workout - 8/31/15 - 246lbs

[bigdil511]

Today after shoulder workout - 8/31/15 - 246lbs

Damn looking jacked bro nice work.

[Kramer33]

I haven't posted a pic of my legs yet. I'm really not looking to add any size to my legs, but I do want to remain proportional

[kelkel]

Quads and calves both look good. Don't see that all that often. Nice work!

[NACH3]

Definitely have a good physique(big) nice wheels... The one thing I'd work on bringing up is your delts(rear and caps), and your short head of your tri(don't take this as a dig b/c it's not at all)... These two were my weak points - and I moved them up in my split and brought them up... Now it's my chest that needs more width and depth!

Overall lookin Real solid!

[bethdoth]

Looking good keep up the hard work!!! Google so you want Abs ...great routine to build Abs on this site.

[nycdave]

Wow bud. Excellent work and results. Keep it up boss.

[free_at_last]

starting feeling that hex yet....or still too early? you look massive man. that hex will really bring out striations and cuts in places you never thought possible!! focus a tad more on the delts, but over-all you look damn good! I wish I was technologically-savvy....i'd create an app that you could plug in different dosages for different AAS (stack them too!). so, Kramer, you could plug in say 40mg/ed of hex and see what you'd look like after so many weeks. bottom line is, you're gonna love it. keep up the great work!

btw -- it's hard for me to believe you only have a couple of previous cycles under your belt. you sure you're not jackin' with us?!!

[Kramer33]

I still don't have the Tren . I should have it by Thursday.

[Kramer33]

btw -- it's hard for me to believe you only have a couple of previous cycles under your belt. you sure you're not jackin' with us?!!

THanks for that compliment! Absolutely nothing from 1999 to 2/2105. Just training like crazy.

[Kramer33]

I posted some post-op pictures of me from 2 years ago. Not that I look perfect now, but it could give some motivation and support to those who think it's impossible to transform their bodies. See the OP for some embarrassing pics of my fat belly

[RangerDanger830]

I have been following this thread from my phone Kramer. This is the first chance I have been on my home computer in a week so I didn't see those pics you posted. That is good progress. I understand what it is like to have to climb uphill after surgery, good stuff.

[Kramer33]

I am still waiting on my Tren E, which should arrive this weekend. A buddy gave me a bottle of Tren A, which I've been pinning 75mg EOD, since Friday. I've done 4 shots, and WOW! I really like it! Maybe it's a combination of the Test, of which I'm on my 4th week, or if it's the Tren Ace, but I LIKE IT!

Libido is WAAAYYY UP!, and I'm sleeping well, which wasn't expected. I've noticed an appetite increase this week too. I feel stronger, but one week might be just a mental boost. I'm doing .25mg Caber every three days, and .25 of Ari EOD.

I'll be glad to get the Tren E so I can pin the Tren E and Test E together twice weekly.

[TheTaxMan]

Sounds like things are going well! Lucky your buddy came to the rescue with tren a! Glad your enjoying it

[Kramer33]

I can't see any physique progress, but I've only been in the Tren for 10 days. My weight is up though - 252lbs

[TheTaxMan]

Your very lean and muscular, so your not going to see much difference in 10 days, be a bit more patient.

when you update us with pics try to add the before cycle pic in as well so people can have a look and compare, theres a good chance we will see your results rather than yourself as you will see yourself all day everyday - if you get what i mean.

[Kramer33]

Nevermind

[TheTaxMan]

Just went back to your first page, cant believe how much you have changed since your op, fantastic!

Download a before and after pic app on your phone, they are usualy free, you will be to compare the results better. Ive used your starting pic and current pic on my app and there is a difference but it wont let me add attachments to your thread, i will try again in the morning or pm you it

[MrFreshmaker]

Wow,i just saw your pics of 2013!!Huge transformation in 2 years!!You did this without juice?

[NACH3]

Wow... Your a beast Krammer!

[Kramer33]

Wow,i just saw your pics of 2013!!Huge transformation in 2 years!!You did this without juice?

Yes. Hard work for two+ years, eating cleaner and smarter. Drug free until this summer. Thanks for the encouragement everyone!

[TheTaxMan]

Definatley a difference mate

The before and after app auto zooms a little but you can still see the difference, you appear a tad more lean and fuller

[Kramer33]

First thing in the morning picture. No food, no pump. Bodyweight 250lbs. The last four or five days I've really started to see a difference. My muscles feel fuller, and my skin looks thinner. I'm still doing 250 mg of test E per week and I'm up to 300 mg of Tren E per week. I'm horny as hell, and not sleeping as well as I was previously. I bought some Ketotifen and hope that helps. Do yall recommend one or 2 mg per night? I'm taking 80mcg of Clen daily.

[Chicagotarsier]

Good thread

I will only say this..if you go read the opinion on HCG via bass/buzzkiller archived pages. HCG was preached to NOT be used ESPECIALLY during PCT due to it stimulates the production of estrogen...which is not good during PCT.

I personally think there is a lot more to be learned about how to use HCG properly.

Also the whole "safe" use of cycling. Only less than 9 months ago NO ONE on the site condoned using less than 500 test on a test tren cycle. Now it is wrong to use normal dose of test with tren. It is sometimes hard to separate flavor of the month from real scientific proof backed "better" ways to do AAS.....especially when everyone is different and responds differently.

I can only say I am happy in some ways to be on HRT and not have to worry with PCT and the whole axis thing.

[Kramer33]

Abs coming in slowly. Strength is up, but physique not changing much. Third full week of 400 mg Tren E complete. No night sweats, no gyno, some mild acne on arms, slight increase in irritability. In order to lose fat, I'm still around 3000-3500 calories per day, so maybe that accounts for the relative absence of muscle gain?

[TheTaxMan]

I noticed the tren e early but it really starts coming in at week 7

Be patient and your looking great kramer, keep it up

Without going through all the posts you looking to bulk or cut from this cycle?

[KBall32]

Kramer- I can definitely tell a difference. I somehow missed your chubby photos from after your back surgery!! You are killing it and look awesome "No Homo". Another 1-2 weeks and you will be blown away. It seems to me you are doing more of a recomp than a bulk or cut, and you are already at 10% BF. Just keep adjusting calories and you will get it tuned in. Maybe eat at 3500 for a while and monitor things. You can always drop a bit to cut up later in your cycle. With Tren I think BF will drop unless you are eating like crap well above tdee. Keep it up brother!

[bsh]

This is an amazing thread! Ur progress is very inspirational brother! Keep up the great work!

[NACH3]

Krammer - your only 4 wks in - if tren a I'd say it's bunk - but tren e - it hasn't even kicked yet - wait til wk 6-8 you'll blow up! And your bf should decrease - I've noticed that my be is dropping but I'm just in wk 3 of tren a - I dropped my deca and let it clear -

I've also always ran test higher than any other compound - my body loves test

Looking awesome! Keep grindin and it'll be very rewarding! Can't wait to see the end results!

[Kramer33]

Without going through all the posts you looking to bulk or cut from this cycle?

I am doing a recomp mostly. Trying to replace 10 pounds of fat with 10 of muscle. Technically that would make me SMALLER, since pound-for-pound fat takes up more space than muscle.

Thanks for the feedback everyone! My wife says she sees my veins more clearly, which is good I guess. I'm glad to hear the Tren E takes a few weeks to really get going.

[TheTaxMan]

Yea you will feel it in terms of irritable etc, i felt it after 2 weeks but in terms of body results i would say it starts at week 6/7, shame i only ran mine for 10 weeks, but next time will be 14 weeks at a higher dose now i know what to expect from it, i like to be cautious

Keep us updated Kramer

[Kramer33]

Is it the Tren or the Clen causing me to be so out of breath? I am getting great pumps, but I am so winded while working out that I can't do as many reps or super sets as before. My strength is great, but when I get to that 12-15th rep, I'm burning so bad, and breathing like I ran a marathon