Cycle comments - Test E & Tren E

**TheTaxMan** · 10-04-2015, 11:43 PM

Thats quite a common side of tren for people, mines been more when talking too fast or at work than when lifting

**Kramer33** · 10-05-2015, 10:04 AM

Y'all just need to slow down when talking.

We Texans like to talk nice and slow.

**Kramer33** · 10-09-2015, 07:59 AM

Fat **** update. I can't seem to lose those stubborn love handles. I'm also out of breath just typing this, so doing extra cardio has been a challenge. My pants are much looser in the waist though, so something is working. I'm keeping my calories in the 3000/day range, so my body weight is still 245-248 when I wake up, and my strength hasnt increased much. I'm finishing week 5 today I think. Gotta check my log. I hope this pic isn't too big.

**The Deadlifting Dog** · 10-09-2015, 08:17 AM

You're looking great.
BTW... Those aren't love handles.

**NACH3** · 10-09-2015, 08:34 AM

Originally Posted by The Deadlifting Dog

You're looking great.
BTW... Those aren't love handles.

Definitely not love handles(I know we think they may be) but that's your damn hip bone lol! It'll get more pronounced as time goes on, too! Like your back is starting to morph and your sides(obliques) are starting to hug your hips tighter and tighter -

Yeah you look great man! Keep crushin' it!

**KBall32** · 10-09-2015, 09:13 AM

Kram- That Tren is going to zap your wind. Just a simple romp with your woman and you will need to take breaks, or put her on top and lay there! Dude you are killing it! Those are not love handles! If you want to see love handles check your original pics out at the beginning of this thread.

**TheTaxMan** · 10-09-2015, 10:49 AM

You have to remember as well your condition before and start of cycle is very good, low fat and high muscle

So you arent going to see results week by week, and its still very early.

I agree with the posts above, there is definate improvements, just your not noticing as they arent drastic changes, and of course you also see yourself daily and its still EARLY!

**NACH3** · 10-09-2015, 12:10 PM

Wait till wk 7-8 Krammer itll be like a whole new cyvle

**Kramer33** · 10-30-2015, 08:50 PM

Update: just finished week 8 of the Tren Enanthate . Pinning 200 mg twice weekly with 250 mg test split into M & F shots with the Tren.

My weight is still between 245 & 250, and BF is really dropping. Strength is up too, even though I've kept my calories in the 3000 daily range.

**Kramer33** · 10-30-2015, 08:52 PM

And I've got a beard because I'm going to a party as Thor for Halloween.

**TheTaxMan** · 10-31-2015, 12:07 AM

Looking excellent keep it up! How long you going for on this cycle?

**Kramer33** · 10-31-2015, 08:47 AM

4 more weeks Tax Man.

**NACH3** · 10-31-2015, 09:55 AM

Kramer it's just burning through the fat like nothing you've seen b4 right? Lol it's an amazing compound that's for sure!

Looking great, Kramer! Your a big boy - being that tall it's hard to make people 5'10" look small but if you can you'll make em look like dwarfs at that height!

These 4 wks are key if your still growing at the end of 4 wks... Watch your weight(if you start losing weight) your growth window has closed but if not keep a close eye as you'll know what to do!

**free_at_last** · 10-31-2015, 07:12 PM

looking great Kramer. I knew you'd bump that tren up to at least 400mg/wk as the cycle progressed. most people do....

**Kramer33** · 11-03-2015, 08:58 PM

Duplicate post

**Splifton** · 11-03-2015, 09:06 PM

Just read through this thread and wanted to give some props to you! That is one insane transformation you executed! It gave me some more motivation to get off my ass and get something done. Well done sir.

**Kramer33** · 11-03-2015, 09:56 PM

**Bodacious** · 11-03-2015, 11:01 PM

Nice work man!!! Sorry I am late to the party here. Great job!! Keep it up and keep us updated. Fat burning machine.

**Kramer33** · 11-17-2015, 11:07 PM

Only two weeks left

My weight has gone up these last couple of weeks, against my best efforts. I'm a lean 260lbs now. I can even see my obliques and serratus (serrati?). Strength is up too. I'm looking forward to PCT and dropping back down to 240, but lean. I won't miss the irritability and mood swings. Neither will my wife.

**TheTaxMan** · 11-18-2015, 02:45 AM

Huge difference when comparing it to your starting pic, the veins the bicep and the overall torso condition, well done

Shame to hear your having some bad sides in terms of mood, do you think that would stop you running tren again?

**AR's King Silabolin** · 11-18-2015, 03:12 AM

u synthol your traps there bro

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**Bodacious** · 11-18-2015, 08:21 AM

Solid man great work!

**Strongblood** · 11-18-2015, 08:52 AM

Daaaam!!! Looking good everywhere Kramer! If you don't mind me asking. What is your regimen for exercising those traps man?

**Kramer33** · 12-04-2015, 02:45 PM

Originally Posted by Strongblood

Daaaam!!! Looking good everywhere Kramer! If you don't mind me asking. What is your regimen for exercising those traps man?

I do traps twice a month. I think traps, calves and forearms are largely determined by genetics.

I have started my PCT today.

100mg Clomid
40mg Nolvadex

Should I take Arimidex too?

I had blood work done, but they DIDNT test my Test levels!

Total Cholesterol : 170 (LDL -100)
Blood sugar : 80
Blood Pressure : 120/75

**Strongblood** · 12-04-2015, 03:50 PM

Originally Posted by Kramer33

I do traps twice a month. I think traps, calves and forearms are largely determined by genetics. I have started my PCT today. 100mg Clomid 40mg Nolvadex Should I take Arimidex too? I had blood work done, but they DIDNT test my Test levels! Total Cholesterol : 170 (LDL -100) Blood sugar : 80 Blood Pressure : 120/75

Yes, I agree Kramer. Traps, calves, and forearms are pretty much determined by genetics. And I came out on the short end on all three! Haha! Good traps sure do help enhance a guy's upper body. Looks like the good lord was plenty generous to you! Your BW looks ok for just coming off a Tren cycle. LDL Cholesterol is high but understandably so. Your blood pressure is great for a Tren cycle, or anytime for that matter! That's very good! As for running the Arimidex . It would have been great to of gotten an e2 sensitive essay in your BW. So you could see where you are estrogen wise. But I've heard of guys developing gyno during PCT. So you might want to include a small dose during pct. But I would rather you get advice from some of the more experienced guys here about that. But it looks like you had a very successful cycle my friend! Congratulations! And be well!

**TheTaxMan** · 12-05-2015, 01:23 AM

Nolva and Clomid should be fine for PCT

Id do 100/50/50/50 clomid, 40/20/20/20 nolva, if you feel its necessary you could even run PCT for 5 weeks instead of 4, wont harm anything

**Kramer33** · 12-18-2015, 06:32 AM

Three weeks into PCT. strength is down, and some of my size, but I am getting leaner apparently. Body weight is 240. Libido is way down, lower than before my cycle. I expect it will return to normal in a couple weeks?

**BeeStung** · 12-18-2015, 09:41 AM

so if your taking Tren A at 300mg a week would you pin monday, wednesday and friday? i know this is slightly off topic but the OP talked about Tren Hex which has a longer ester so u can pin twice a week but what about tren ace which has a shorter ester?

**NACH3** · 12-18-2015, 10:16 AM

Originally Posted by BeeStung

so if your taking Tren A at 300mg a week would you pin monday, wednesday and friday? i know this is slightly off topic but the OP talked about Tren Hex which has a longer ester so u can pin twice a week but what about tren ace which has a shorter ester?

Hey Beestung, try starting your own thread please

**Kramer33** · 12-19-2015, 05:31 PM

I was pinning 200 mg Tren E twice weekly, once on Monday and again on Friday. 125 mg Test E pinned twice weekly also.

Tren Ace needs to be pinned daily, I think.

**NACH3** · 12-19-2015, 06:42 PM

Originally Posted by Kramer33

I was pinning 200 mg Tren E twice weekly, once on Monday and again on Friday. 125 mg Test E pinned twice weekly also.
F
Tren Ace needs to be pinned daily, I think.

EOD at least - I tend to aromatize moreso so I pin ed - many say they can't feel a difference or BW doesn't show a difference - but my levels are definitely more stable(no acne fluctuating water weight bloat etc) if I pin short esters ed - some go 2 days and don't notice... It's all individidual

**Kramer33** · 12-20-2015, 05:23 PM

I've been breaking out bad this last week. Does acne mean my natural test is coming back?

**TheTaxMan** · 12-20-2015, 05:26 PM

I think thats more of wishful thinking kramer

The acne is due to hormone flux

But dont worry its normal after a cycle to feel a loss in libido etc, worrying will more than likely make things worse, just try to relax and be patient.

Looking fantastic btw, well done

**Bio-Active** · 12-20-2015, 05:37 PM

Originally Posted by Kramer33

I've been breaking out bad this last week. Does acne mean my natural test is coming back?

this is common during pct and the beginning of a cycle. As your hormone balance back out it will dissipate

**Kramer33** · 12-31-2015, 05:07 PM

Almost done with PCT. one more day to go. Pretty successful cycle I'd say. I gained lean mass and dropped body fat. My acne has almost cleared up fully, and my libido is back to normal. I'm not wanting to bang anything that moves now, just the hot ladies, and my wife especially!

Now the question: can I start another cycle in February? We have a Caribbean vacation planned for the end of the month and I wanna look my best.

**TheTaxMan** · 01-01-2016, 03:08 AM

Bloodwork will give the best answer Kramer

If your not getting bloods done,
Time on + PCT = time off

**Kramer33** · 01-08-2016, 12:23 PM

I got my blood work done on December 29, and my testosterone is 314. Is that good or bad after one month of PCT?

**NACH3** · 01-08-2016, 06:13 PM

How long did you run your Nolva? IMHO when running a 19nor Id always run my NOLVA for 6wks(40/40/20/20/20/20 or 10
Tren and deca (even shuts you down harder) but both are hard to recover from so Id take the extra precautions next time, Krammer!

You look great man - work well done!

And wait till 6-8 wks after your PCT is done for BW! GL buddy! Keep eating and staying active brother!

**Kramer33** · 01-09-2016, 12:58 PM

Nach, I ran Clomid & Nolvadex for 4 weeks and counting. Clomid 100/100/50/50...Nolvadex 40/40/20/20...

I feel great now. Strength has leveled out, and my libido is back to precycle normal. Acne is gone too. I'll get more BW done in a month and post em here.