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    My wife wants to run a Var cycle

    Wife wants to start her first anavar cycle

    Age 25
    Height 5ft2
    Weight 138lbs
    Bodyfat 18%
    Training for 6 years



    Shes does a lot of cardio and weight training, shes on a similair diet to me but with less calories and has cut in really well over the last couple of months but its pretty much stalling, she wants to run an anavar cycle to help speed up her goals, especily before our vacation

    Am i right in thinking she doesnt need to run nolva with the anavar?
    Was going to suggest to her take 20mg Anavar ED for 8 weeks, is that too long?

    She has some concerns which i dont think some are true or dont know where shes read them from, id imagine shes heard of these sides from female taking injectables such as test

    1. Deep male voice
    2. An increase in size of her clitoris?
    3. Body hair increase
    4. Stress on her liver from an anavar cycle? (she drinks about 4 glasses a wine per week and has a very good diet and water intake, alcohol can stop completley when shes on anavar, she has a strong mind)
    5. PCT (i believe she doesnt need any form of it)?
    6. Shes worried about becoming extemely muscular (ive told her anavar is pretty mild and shes not going to be putting 10lbs of muscle on in a few weeks off anavar) but she wants second opinions.

    Her goals are to increase some low but quality muscle mass and drop some more bodyfat.

    Looking for help with the doseage and length of cycle and addressing her concerns.

    Thanks guys
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    Post in the woman's section, get her to sign up and have a read in there. Lots of logs so she knows what to expect.
    Can you source REAL oxandrolone??? It's hard to find..
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    We have a choice of these UGLs (i know they should be tested with labmax)

    Unigen life sciences
    Pharmacom
    Alpha pharma
    Shree venkatesh
    Noble labs

    Since being impressed with pharmacom's gear i was going to gamble theirs. Considering Alpha pharmas as well as heard some positive feedback.

    1 box will last her 50'days at 20mg a day so even if it wasnt the real deal its not exactly bank braking (we will test it with a labmax kit though to make sure shes not taking winny or something else)

    Any help and advice on how to go about doing this labmax stuff please share as its not something ive done or looked into much.

    If i get no response il get her to sign up, was just wanting some quick answers rather than her having to sign up, introduce herself, wait for pink member status etc.
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    1, 2, 3 and 4: Yes, it can happen. Need to be aware at this possible sides.

    5: For Anavar dont think its necessary, for more androgenic cycles for females it is wise to implement some female hormones (estradiol and progesterone) to counter balance the androgenics faster.

    6. No, it will not happen in one cycle, no worries.

    About the Nolva, its only usefull for breast reduction.It has a very high affinity for breast receptors, it does nothing for fat reduction, and IMO it should not reduce water retention.

    Edit: Dont forget that she should not take the birth control pill during the cycle, and that most likely will not have period during.
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    Thanks MrBB
    She has what we call the "coil" fitted up there
    Would the coil still work? And does the period you mention still can be effected on the coil or is it pill only?

    As for the possible sides you mentioned, are they temporary whilst on the cycle? Or possibly permanent deep voice etc?

    Does 20mg ED for 8 weeks seem about right or would 6 weeks be better?

    Should she take LIV 52 or NAC while on the cycle?

    Thanks again
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    For a first cycle she does NOT need 20 mg. 10mg is plenty. I would also be very careful with ugl anavar . A lot of it is faked with other hormones.

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    ^^^ This. 10mg is more than enough to start.

    Some side effects can become permanent, thats why is wise to test sensibility with low dosage. Ussually Var does not have this androgenic side effects, but it is often fake, specially in europe where oxandrolone does not exist in pharmacies.
    If your wife starts to get a itchy throat maybe bettet to stop or reduce dosage.

    Im sure Female members will chip in asap

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    Would she use 10mg Ed for the full cycle or increase to 20mg during the cycle?whats recommended?

    Thanks again

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    Quote Originally Posted by TheTaxMan
    Would she use 10mg Ed for the full cycle or increase to 20mg during the cycle?whats recommended? Thanks again
    10mg throughout the cycle is plenty. No need to taper up. My wife competes in figure and still only runs her var at 10mg. I also test everything I give to my wife prior to giving it to her. Females are very sensitive and need a lot less than you would think to achieve gains as well as sides. Just be careful.

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    My wife says leave her at 10mg for first cycle. The sides will slowly sneak up over time. Her worst is more body hair. She says the clit swell and sensitivity is almost immediate but goes away. No acne, hair loss, voice deepening.... Just stronger than a lot of the dudes in the gym, but then again, she works harder than they do.
    Wife is an experienced user and still runs var only at 10mg in off season but has run longer cycles at higher dose pre-contest.
    Agree with above poster regarding staying off nolva, can use "estroven" supplement for pct if it makes her feel better.

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    Thanks guys

    Whats the cheapest option for an accurate test? Ive never tested anything

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    Quote Originally Posted by TheTaxMan
    Thanks guys Whats the cheapest option for an accurate test? Ive never tested anything
    lab max at least will tell you if the correct hormone is present. It won't tell you quality or quantity though.

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    I went on there site, but its not the best layed out, what test do i need to buy?

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    Quote Originally Posted by TheTaxMan
    I went on there site, but its not the best layed out, what test do i need to buy?
    ill pm you the link

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    I found it buddy thanks

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    One question guys, we going with 10mg per day, is it recommended to take 5mg morning/evening or 10mg all at once, and how long should her first cycle be, 6 weeks? 8?

    Thanks for the great advice

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    8hr half life. Always best to split

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    Wife wants to cycle too? When are you buying dumbells for your kid?

    Hahahha I wish my wife was into this too.

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    Quote Originally Posted by TheTaxMan
    One question guys, we going with 10mg per day, is it recommended to take 5mg morning/evening or 10mg all at once, and how long should her first cycle be, 6 weeks? 8? Thanks for the great advice
    just split it am/pm. We workout in the evening so wife takes half morning and half pre workout. And I would have her just run 6 weeks. Good diet and cardio will be key.

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    There are plenty of female var logs on this site and if she is serious she should sign up herself to educate herself more. Would you trust her to tell you what to take and not look into it yourself?

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    She knows im never off here so trusts me, plus is by my side reading the replies which seem pretty accurate to me.

    And a simple var cycle is a lot less complex than the cycles i run, so its a bit different.

    If she wants to sign up she will, thanks.

    Thanks for taking the time to offer advice guys.

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    taxman, good on her, i would love it if my wife jumped on anavar , i have 100 pharma grade caps sitting in my bathroom begging. i wont use them unless im on a cycle, saving them for a rainy day. ....

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    Thanks man

    Shes tried her best to get where shes at without anything

    u can see in her pic her abs are great (this is only 18 months after giving birth to our son as well so im really proud of her)

    Shes just a bit stuck now and wants a boost, i told her that sometimes you just have to take that leap.

    Should she be taking some liver support with 10mg ED? It cant do any harm? I have a bunch of liv52 support, just wasnt sure if its needed at such low dose

    Cheers
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    Probably not needed, but Wont hurt. Prevention is always better than cure.

    I'd use it.

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    Yep, better safe than sorry, as i say ive got thousands of liv52 so she may as well

    Cheers

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    I would start her out with 5-10mg. She shouldn't need anymore than that. Have her use some CREATINE MONO with it too,,,they work well together,,especially in women.

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    She bulks up a hell if a lot on creatine and for that reason hates it

    She is quite muscular as it is and natutaly pretty broad for a woman. When she used creatine in the past it make her look like shes on Deca

    Shes going 5mg am 5mg pm for 7 weeks

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