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    Question Need mass? novice cycle?

    Hi! I'm a 21 years old Swede. I have been lifting for 3 years and I'm in great shape.

    - 170 lbs(76 kg),
    - 6 foot tall (182 cm).
    - 10% bf
    - very well shaped (excepet arms only 15" or 38 cm)
    - bench 220 lbs (100kg)

    I belive I'm at my peak as working out whitout AAS. My diet is good and I look great.

    BUT

    I'm too small. my body would look really good whith 22 lbs or 10 kg more muscle.
    Although my diet I seem to be unable to recive that weight gain.

    I've planned a cycle to get bigger (a 7 week cycle). Need your help and opinions!
    thanks a lot!

    1-7 sust 500mg
    3-7 winst.-tabs 35mg/day
    3-7 Proviron (anti estr.)

    And of course 10 days of clomid after the cycle.

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    I think something like this would be better:
    Week 1-11 Test Enth 500mgs
    Week 1-4 D-bol 30mgs ed
    Week 1-10 Deca 300mgs
    Clomid 2 weeks after last shot of Test.

    The Deca is optional.

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    or try this

    week 1- 10: 500 mgs test enth
    week 1 - 4: 35mg/ed d-bol
    week 1- 10: deca 400mg/ew

    clomid 2 weeks after last shot !

    regards !

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    At 21 I'd wait anothe 2-3 years, take this time to get your diet, training and recovery down. Then when you juice you'll have a good foundation.

    Your natural hormones sre the highest they'll be in life, take advantage of them, don't shut them down by juicing. You may never recover them again.

    JohnnyB

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    M and G's cycles are great for a first timer, but if you insist on running sust run it for 10-11 weeks, not 7. winny is good but Id really recommend you throw in deca , its a world of difference

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    Thanks guys! I'm taking in all of you feedback!
    Jhonny B: the problem is that I do belive that I'll be unable to gain more quality mass, without aas....

    Mike62200 : don't you guys recomend that I use Sust??

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    Most people believe that their diets are great, but fact is it's usually not.

    I don't know many people that couldn't put on mass if they truly got in say 5000kcal a day.

    Take your time and wait a few years.

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