2nd cycle help

**raymondtrudeau** · 03-26-2016, 03:01 PM

first iam 48years old been lifting over 20 years..I did my first cycle of test 400 18months ago
it was a 12 week cycle of 600mg per week..i gained only 8 pounds from it..
pct was nova.

now I want to run a second cycle ( it has been so long so maybe it should be called first cycle again?)
I weight 210 lbs 5'10" with visible abs

I would like to gain size but also lean out
any suggestions?

**tbody66** · 03-26-2016, 03:05 PM

diet leans you out, your gear doesn't. Eating during cycle makes your gains possible! What type of test did you run and did you stack anything with it? I'm 49 and been lifting for 34 years, so I understand.

**Bio-Active** · 03-26-2016, 03:14 PM

Originally Posted by raymondtrudeau

first iam 48years old been lifting over 20 years..I did my first cycle of test 400 18months ago
it was a 12 week cycle of 600mg per week..i gained only 8 pounds from it..
pct was nova.

now I want to run a second cycle ( it has been so long so maybe it should be called first cycle again?)
I weight 210 lbs 5'10" with visible abs

I would like to gain size but also lean out
any suggestions?

you should read this and do this

My First Cycle: Planning and Executing a Successful First Cycle

**raymondtrudeau** · 03-27-2016, 06:51 AM

Originally Posted by tbody66

diet leans you out, your gear doesn't. Eating during cycle makes your gains possible! What type of test did you run and did you stack anything with it? I'm 49 and been lifting for 34 years, so I understand.

thanks for the reply
the test was test 400 it was a mix of 175mg ethenate/ 175mg cypenate/ 50mg propenate..
I did not stack anything with it just the test...

**raymondtrudeau** · 03-28-2016, 05:44 PM

I have read the first cycle article...but can someone help me with my question on 2nd cycle

**Bio-Active** · 03-28-2016, 05:52 PM

Originally Posted by raymondtrudeau

I have read the first cycle article...but can someone help me with my question on 2nd cycle

What is the question?

**raymondtrudeau** · 03-28-2016, 06:43 PM

Originally Posted by Bio-Active

What is the question?

first iam 48years old been lifting over 20 years..I did my first cycle of test 400 (it was tri test a mix of e, c, and sestanon)18months ago
it was a 12 week cycle of 500mg per week..i gained only 8 pounds from it.. (not sure if it was bunk stuff)
pct was nova.

now I want to run a second cycle ( it has been so long so maybe it should be called first cycle again?)
should I stick to a test only cycle again or can i through in
some deca ?
I weight 210 lbs 5'10" with visible abs

**Bio-Active** · 03-28-2016, 06:46 PM

Originally Posted by raymondtrudeau

first iam 48years old been lifting over 20 years..I did my first cycle of test 400 (it was tri test a mix of e, c, and sestanon)18months ago
it was a 12 week cycle of 500mg per week..i gained only 8 pounds from it.. (not sure if it was bunk stuff)
pct was nova.

now I want to run a second cycle ( it has been so long so maybe it should be called first cycle again?)
should I stick to a test only cycle again or can i through in
some deca ?
I weight 210 lbs 5'10" with visible abs

You could throw deca in for a second cycle or up the test. Your pct should consist of 2 serms. Clomid and nolvadex is the tried and proven method. Hcg during your cycle would be a nice adition as well as an ai

**raymondtrudeau** · 03-28-2016, 07:17 PM

Originally Posted by Bio-Active

You could throw deca in for a second cycle or up the test. Your pct should consist of 2 serms. Clomid and nolvadex is the tried and proven method. Hcg during your cycle would be a nice adition as well as an ai

ok thanks if I did 500mg of test per week how much deca should I do?
thanks

**Bio-Active** · 03-28-2016, 07:20 PM

Originally Posted by raymondtrudeau

ok thanks if I did 500mg of test per week how much deca should I do? thanks

are you planning to run hcg and ai during your cycle? Hiw about pct? 400 deca

**musclestack** · 03-28-2016, 08:31 PM

OP, you gained 8 pounds from your first cycle. How much did you keep?

Generally, (not always), people respond very well with their first cycle. It's not unheard of to jump up 20-25 pounds while on (not all muscle obviously). Were you happy with your gains? If not, I would take a look at your diet. There's a chance it may need improvement.