Test over tren?

**Jaxon0408** · 04-04-2016, 01:01 PM

So I'm just throwing this question out there. I've ran tren several times and been through countless cycles but I've never ran my test over tren. Thoughts? Do you guys prefer your test over or under tren and any benefits of each?

I know I get great results from tren over test. Even threw in some mast at one point and liked the cycle better at the end when I dropped the mast.

**Jaxon0408** · 04-05-2016, 11:21 AM

Awesome info guys

**Strongblood** · 04-05-2016, 11:44 AM

It's really just a matter of preference. Some like a TRT dose of Test and blast Tren . Some like to blast both at the same dose. I know a few guys that cycle a low equal dose of Test and Tren for an extended amount of time. It's all up to the individual.

**itsjayman02** · 04-06-2016, 08:28 AM

Originally Posted by Jaxon0408

So I'm just throwing this question out there. I've ran tren several times and been through countless cycles but I've never ran my test over tren. Thoughts? Do you guys prefer your test over or under tren and any benefits of each?

I know I get great results from tren over test. Even threw in some mast at one point and liked the cycle better at the end when I dropped the mast.

i run tren at least 2-1 ratio over test

**ScotchGuard02** · 04-06-2016, 02:34 PM

I've run high dose Tren cycles in the past and have suffered sides. Now I run low dose Tren and higher Test. My body seems to tolerate Test over Tren. I got better results running higher Tren but it wasn't worth the sides.

**Ashop** · 04-06-2016, 02:53 PM

I wouldn't ever run TREN without some additional TESTOSTERONE . I would definitely make sure its in the mix.
I prefer my TEST amounts higher than TREN but something that you may need to experiment with.

**MuscleScience** · 04-06-2016, 11:13 PM

Tren is very strong compound and its affinity for binding to the AR is 10k times more powerful than that of test. Unless you run high amounts of test. Running test is worthless because the Tren competitively inhibits test from even binding to the androgen receptors.

**numbere** · 04-07-2016, 04:58 AM

Originally Posted by MuscleScience

Tren is very strong compound and its affinity for binding to the AR is 10k times more powerful than that of test. Unless you run high amounts of test. Running test is worthless because the Tren competitively inhibits test from even binding to the androgen receptors.

How much more test would you use if you wanted to run high test?

**MuscleScience** · 04-07-2016, 03:06 PM

Originally Posted by numbere

How much more test would you use if you wanted to run high test?

I would say at least 250mg/100mg of Tren . But that is pure speculation on my part. Running a compound like winny that decreases bound Testosterone maybe helpful in getting the most test possible to the androgen receptors.

I should qualify if your running a long ester of Tren like Tren E, Tren A probably drops off fast enough to allow test to Bind a bit more. I don't have any evidence to back this up though. This is me thinking in terms of the pharmokinetics/dynamics of these compounds

**krugerr** · 04-07-2016, 03:17 PM

I've tried it both ways.

1000mg test to 800mg tren
800mg tren to 500mg test

Both ways I liked. I was definitely noticing more consistent gains on the test high version. But both yielded very good results.

I think it comes to personal preference. Some say they experience more sides one way or the other. I'm lucky in that I rarely get negative sides.

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**NACH3** · 04-07-2016, 03:38 PM

Originally Posted by krugerr

I've tried it both ways.

1000mg test to 800mg tren
800mg tren to 500mg test

Both ways I liked. I was definitely noticing more consistent gains on the test high version. But both yielded very good results.

I think it comes to personal preference. Some say they experience more sides one way or the other. I'm lucky in that I rarely get negative sides.

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I too, like running my test higher than my other compounds! However, some like low Test and higher tren etc... It's all about what works best for you - my body handles test well - just my experience... As long as your AI is dialed in you should be gtg - always keep a DA on hand if not run a smaller dose from the start... Or wait on mid cycle bw to make your adjustments!