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    Lightbulb Cycle advice/input!!

    Im 5 10' at 205lbs and have had a handful of cycles, was wondering how this cycle looks

    1-16or18 (test e - 300-400mg)
    1-16or18 (eq - 750mg)
    2-13 (tren e - 375-400mg)
    9-16 (anavar - 50mg ed)
    3or4-13 (adex .5mg eod)
    3or4-13 (caber .5mg 2x/week)
    9-16 (liv.52)
    3-16 (hcg 250iu 2x/wk)

    Pct 10 days after last pin

    Hcg 1000ius every day for 10 days

    Nolvadex 40/20/20/20
    Clomid 100/50/50/50
    HCGemerate
    Super Cardarine 20/20/20/20

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    Just at a glance, I'm kind of confused, you have a lot going on there. I understand the HCG @ 250IU, but not the HCG @ 1000IU for 10 days prior to PCT
    I would ditch the HCGenerate, it's useless and a waste of.your $, IMHO.
    Personally, I like NAC vs. Liv52, although I have used Liv52 in the past. Would run NAC all.of the way through.
    Keep your E2 in control and might not need the cabergoline. .5mg a'dex EOD may be a tad too much, IMO and BW will let you know if you need that much.
    Not a fan of EQ, but to each his own.
    No comment on the Cardarine as you have a thread going on it.
    Personally would like the test slightly higher.
    Honestly, with good var, 50mg is overkill for me.

    Just my thoughts on it.
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    1-16or18 (test e -400mg)
    1-16or18 (eq - 600-750mg)
    1-14 (tren e - 375-400mg)
    12-16or18 (anavar - 50mg ed) 25mg/am 25/pm
    1-16or18 (adex .5mg eod)or aromasin
    1-14 (caber .5mg 2x/week)
    12-18 (liv.52&NAC)
    1-16or18 (hcg 250iu 2x/wk)

    Pct 14 days after last pin

    Nolvadex 40/20/20/20
    Clomid 50/50/25/25
    Super Cardarine 15/15/15/15
    Ostarine 20/20/20/10
    Aromasin 12.5eod/12.5/12.5/12.5
    liv.52&NAC

    Does this look better?
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    i think i'm going to pick up some MK-2866. sounds like good stuff

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    Quote Originally Posted by Poseidon5.0 View Post
    1-16or18 (test e -400mg)
    1-16or18 (eq - 600-750mg)
    1-14 (tren e - 375-400mg)
    12-16or18 (anavar - 50mg ed) 25mg/am 25/pm
    1-16or18 (adex .5mg eod)or aromasin
    1-14 (caber .5mg 2x/week)
    12-18 (liv.52&NAC)
    1-16or18 (hcg 250iu 2x/wk)

    Pct 14 days after last pin

    Nolvadex 40/20/20/20
    Clomid 50/50/25/25
    Super Cardarine 15/15/15/15
    Ostarine 20/20/20/10
    Aromasin 12.5eod/12.5/12.5/12.5
    liv.52&NAC

    Does this look better?
    There's no need to split the var dose.

    It has a short half life but you won't notice any difference.

    You should be okay taking 0.25mg of caber twice a week.

    I take it every 4 days with good results.

    PCT for eq is usually 21 days after last pin so you may want to drop it a week earlier.

    I'd do some research on liv52 because I think they changed the ingredients and it's all herbs now.

    I use NAC daily.

    Ost is suppressive and shouldn't be used during PCT.

    You're playing on thin ice using cardarine because it causes cancer.

    Unless you're a top tier athlete and willing to sacrifice your body for a medal or championship it's not worth the risk.

    You risk crashing your e2 using stane during PCT, and some e2 rebound is beneficial during this period.

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    i read an article that said Osta can jump start a shut down HPTA system if used in low dosages for less than four weeks. why is that something being spread around?

    here's the article "MK-2866 (Ostarine) Profile"

    h t t p :// www dot evolutionary dot organ /mk-2866-ostarine-sarms -exposed
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    Quote Originally Posted by Tlolec View Post
    i read an article that said Osta can jump start a shut down HPTA system if used in low dosages for less than four weeks. why is that something being spread around?

    here's the article "MK-2866 (Ostarine) Profile"

    h t t p :// www dot evolutionary dot organ /mk-2866-ostarine-sarms-exposed
    I don't see where that says anything about Ostarine's effect on HPTA reset.

    Regardless, I'd take anything I read about SARMs with a grain of salt if the source sells SARMs and provides no scientific data to back up their claim.
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    I get all sorts of different responses on different forums, on another forum i am told to follow the Perfect Pct protocol which includes nolva, clomid, aromasin , cardarine, ostarine, and liver care. Ive used only clomid and nolva before for pct and i cant seem to bounce back and end up losing all of my gains. Which is why this time i am adding some sarms into the picture.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Poseidon5.0 View Post
    I get all sorts of different responses on different forums, on another forum i am told to follow the Perfect Pct protocol which includes nolva, clomid, aromasin, cardarine, ostarine, and liver care. Ive used only clomid and nolva before for pct and i cant seem to bounce back and end up losing all of my gains. Which is why this time i am adding some sarms into the picture.
    It doesn't make any sense that you're going to run an 18 week cycle when you have a difficult time resetting your HPTA and can't keep gains.

    Good luck with everything.
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    Quote Originally Posted by numbere View Post
    It doesn't make any sense that you're going to run an 18 week cycle when you have a difficult time resetting your HPTA and can't keep gains.

    Good luck with everything.
    Give me some input on how you would cycle having enough gear for a 6-8 month cycle (teste&c, tren , eq, anavar ), with all ancillaries(arimidex , hcg , caber, nolva, clomid, nac, liv52), and peptides(igf1-lr3, Igf1-des) on hand??? what would be ideal? blast cruise with pct, cycle with pct, cycle with bridge?? any input will be greatly appreciated.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Tlolec View Post
    i read an article that said Osta can jump start a shut down HPTA system if used in low dosages for less than four weeks. why is that something being spread around?

    here's the article "MK-2866 (Ostarine) Profile"

    h t t p :// www dot evolutionary dot organ /mk-2866-ostarine-sarms-exposed
    Those guys will say anything to sell it lol

    Ost for PCT thats a new one...

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    Quote Originally Posted by Poseidon5.0 View Post
    Give me some input on how you would cycle having enough gear for a 6-8 month cycle (teste&c, tren, eq, anavar), with all ancillaries(arimidex, hcg, caber, nolva, clomid, nac, liv52), and peptides(igf1-lr3, Igf1-des) on hand??? what would be ideal? blast cruise with pct, cycle with pct, cycle with bridge?? any input will be greatly appreciated.
    Don't tell me what to do buddy.

    So you want me to spoon feed you a blast and cruise cycle?

    That's not how this works.

    I'll give you some advice on a cycle but I won't build one from scratch for someone.

    Stop being so lazy and do your own research.

    Lastly if you have to ask how to run those compounds/ancillaries and how to blast and cruise then you have no business using them or that technique.

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    Do you compete? Beacuse thats a lot of cycles and a lot of aas for a 22yr old to mess up his body for a lil muscle.

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    Quote Originally Posted by numbere View Post
    Don't tell me what to do buddy.

    So you want me to spoon feed you a blast and cruise cycle?

    That's not how this works.

    I'll give you some advice on a cycle but I won't build one from scratch for someone.

    Stop being so lazy and do your own research.

    Lastly if you have to ask how to run those compounds/ancillaries and how to blast and cruise then you have no business using them or that technique.
    Don't get you panties in a bunch. A simple no would have sufficed. Thanks anyway

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    Quote Originally Posted by songdog View Post
    Do you compete? Beacuse thats a lot of cycles and a lot of aas for a 22yr old to mess up his body for a lil muscle.

    And no i do not compete.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Poseidon5.0 View Post
    Don't get you panties in a bunch. A simple no would have sufficed. Thanks anyway
    We are here to help.Guys like you are expected to do some research so they have a idea wat they are doing.And by the way you are going you are going too run into trouble with your body bro.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Poseidon5.0
    Give me some input on how you would cycle having enough gear for a 6-8 month cycle (teste&c, tren, eq, anavar), with all ancillaries(arimidex, hcg, caber, nolva, clomid, nac, liv52), and peptides(igf1-lr3, Igf1-des) on hand??? what would be ideal? blast cruise with pct, cycle with pct, cycle with bridge?? any input will be greatly appreciated.
    Do two different cycles.
    Just because you have it doesn't mean you have to use it all at once.

    And... 14 weeks of tren ?!?!
    No fucking way could I handle that.

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    Quote Originally Posted by songdog View Post
    We are here to help.Guys like you are expected to do some research so they have a idea wat they are doing.And by the way you are going you are going too run into trouble with your body bro.
    I have been doing quite a lot of research i know a thing or two, but i just wanted some input from more experienced guys on here. And thanks for the kind words my friend.
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    Quote Originally Posted by The Deadlifting Dog View Post
    Do two different cycles.
    Just because you have it doesn't mean you have to use it all at once.

    And... 14 weeks of tren ?!?!
    No fucking way could I handle that.
    Yeah i was not planning on using all the gear at once i just wanted to mention i have enough gear and ancillaries to run gear for a full year (which of course i am not). But i just wanted a couple of ideas on how others run their cycles, pct, bridge, blast&cruise, etc. Like i mentioned any input is appreciated.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Tlolec View Post
    i think i'm going to pick up some MK-2866. sounds like good stuff
    Its not that great. If you first gonna ruin hdlcholestrol and get a total test below 200, u should use lgd instead, which is much more anabolic .
    Tabu in pct and in cycles also because i think it may make your aas less effective.
    As a standalone with a trtdose or as a cutter with trtdose to reach 15% bodyfat infront of cycle, its ok.

    Ostarine has its place in injury healing but it didnt fix my problemes but mk677 did.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Silabolin View Post
    Its not that great. If you first gonna ruin hdlcholestrol and get a total test below 200, u should use lgd instead, which is much more anabolic .
    a standalone with a trtdose or as a cutter with trtdose to reach 15% bodyfat infront of cycle, its ok.

    Ostarine has its place in injury healing but it didnt fix my problemes but mk677 did.
    Whaaaaaat?! To get to 15% b4 a cycle lol plain lazy... Diet will do that alone! Maybe it's why your still above 20 Sil

    Killer advice!
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    Quote Originally Posted by NACH3 View Post

    Whaaaaaat?! To get to 15% b4 a cycle lol plain lazy... Diet will do that alone! Maybe it's why your still above 20 Sil

    Killer advice!
    Listen little man. Not everybody has your metabolism. Lot of guys struggle. SARMs are an important tool for cutting.

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