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08-29-2016, 04:03 AM #1Banned
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The MALE oral-only cycle (anavar)
I've done an oral-only cycle once before and I'm going to start another one this week.
I realise that a lot of people will tell you that an oral-only cycle is bad news for males. I did one about 5 or 6 years ago (anavar ) when I was about 23 or 24 and it went fine. Hoping it goes fine this time too.
Many people argue against oral-only cycles for males because the oral steroid (e.g. anavar, dianabol , winstrol , anadrol ) will shut down your natural testosterone production (which is why people inject testosterone along with them).
Some steroids shut you down a lot more than others, and it seems that Anavar(oxandrolone) is the least suppressive of the ones you can swallow. Anavar has low androgenicity, and there seems to be a strong link between the androgenicity of a steroid and its suppression of testosterone production, i.e the higher the androgenicity the harder it shuts you down, but also the 19-nor steroids such as Nandrolone (DecaDurabolin) and Trenbolone shut you down hard too.
Anavar has a half-life in your blood of 9 hours... meaning that if you take 100mg at noon today, then at noon tomorrow you will have 38mg in your blood... and the next day it will be 14mg... and the next day 5mg. It's eliminated quite quickly by the body.
The optimum daily dosage for males seems to be about 80mg. Lighter men take less, heavier men take more. Taking more than the right amount doesn't seem to have much effect other than having your liver work harder.
For most stable blood levels, I'll be taking pills twice a day, at 6am and 6pm.
Week 1: First day 80mg at 6am then 40mg at 6pm, and from then on 40mg twice a day
Week 2-9: 40mg twice daily
Week 10: Mon 70mg, Tue 60mg, Wed 50mg, Thur 40mg, Fri 30mg, Sat 20mg, Sun 10mg
Week 10: Monday - 5000 IU of hCG all in one shot
Week 10: Daily - Clomid 50mg, Nolva 40mg
Week 11: Daily - Clomid 50mg, Nolva 40mg
Week 12: Daily - Clomid 25mg, Nolva 20mg
Week 13: Daily - Clomid 25mg, Nolva 20mg
I NEED TO STRESS THAT I GOT AWAY WITH DOING THIS AT THE AGE OF 23 OR 24. . . . I MIGHT NOT GET AWAY WITH IT AT THE AGE OF 29. . . AND THIS CYCLE MIGHT NOT BE BENEFICIAL AFTER THE AGE OF 35
I used the Steroid Calculator Grapher with the half-lives..... not sure how accurate it is (especially in terms of the time of ingestion to the time of max serum level) but anywho here's the picture...
(ignore the black line because it's only the Sum)
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08-29-2016, 04:12 AM #2
Its a stupid cycle, welcome back to the 90's.
We know better now, seems you do not. Good luck to get past the 4 week mark, and if you do hold on to your liver real good or it might fall of your ass.
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08-29-2016, 04:22 AM #3"ARs Pork Eating Crusader"
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Just inject for cvnt sakes!!
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08-29-2016, 05:00 AM #4Banned
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Main reason I'm doing this is because I'm weaning off an SSRI over the next 7 weeks or so.
Once I'm off my happy pills, it's gonna be Anadrol (kickstart) + Test + Tren + Winstrol (to finish)
As for only lasting 4 weeks......... well when I did this a few years back I noticed that I had very little sex drive.... but other than that I was fine.
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08-29-2016, 05:01 AM #5Banned
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Also Anavar is used to treat liver damage, as far as I know. Supposedly it only wrecks your liver a tiny bit.
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08-29-2016, 06:34 AM #7Banned
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Hmm....... I might put more thought into this.
Doing Testosterone on its own would of course be playing it safe (if I had to do a cycle) but 500mg a week of Sustanon turns me into the Michelin man with moon face.
I'm on day 5 of my weaning right now and I can feel it (17.5mg). Two more days and I drop again to 15mg.
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08-29-2016, 06:34 AM #8
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Not even reading
Waste of time nonsense
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08-29-2016, 08:01 AM #11Banned
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No I'm not joking..... check it out:
A randomized, controlled trial of treatment of alcoholic hepatitis with parenteral nutrition and oxandrolone. II. Short-term effects on nitrogen me... - PubMed - NCBI
I hear that Anavar is the least hepatoxic of all the orals.
Oh.... and just as an aside...... has any other male gotten away with doing a course of orals and kept their gains?
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08-29-2016, 08:47 AM #13Banned
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Actually I might pick up a bottle of Test400 and consider running 200 mg /wk
Last time I did Anavar on its own though it went fine.... I did notice some minimal libido drop toward the end but it was OK
I'm gonna think about this for another week
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08-29-2016, 08:58 AM #14
i would avoid tren atleast. i would wait a little while BUT if you DO go with a cycle test solo is good. maybe with var also, but i wouldent do oral solo
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08-29-2016, 10:33 AM #15
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08-29-2016, 11:03 AM #16
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08-29-2016, 11:05 AM #17
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08-29-2016, 04:47 PM #18
no one forbids you to make a single anavar cycle just because you're a man ... it just depends on what you want to achieve with that cycle ... I think anavar is a good steroid , but your cycle seems a little strange ( decreases pyramid dosage last week, 5000 iu HCG at once , Clomid and Nolvadex like a testosterone cycle ... ) in my opinion it's all a bit excessive
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08-29-2016, 05:31 PM #19
Im sure you will be huge in no time ...keep us updated
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11-21-2016, 03:53 AM #20New Member
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test is good , with less side effect.
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11-22-2016, 04:13 AM #21
Look op an oral only cycle won't make you drop dead. But running atleast a TRT dose of test with it will assure you a smoother cycle and one with better gains. Can you honestly list any good reasons why you shouldn't use test. You said it gives you moon face, well try using an AI and injecting smaller amounts more frequently. Like do a Mon Thurs shot schedule or use mine and do a Mon,wed,fri schedule. By doing this your injecting smaller amounts each time which can help limit sides. * Just to clarify I inject my trt dose Mon,wed,fri. But I do sub q shots. *
Last edited by michael30; 11-22-2016 at 09:28 PM.
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11-22-2016, 07:12 AM #22Member
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200mg a week of test is pointless we cruise on that to maintain normal levels you will shit yourself down for no reason sounds like you read zero information and just wanna cycle in correctly with no results and you want a easy cycle
500mg test a week 12 weeks done run an ai and pct on hand
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01-10-2017, 07:00 AM #23New Member
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Hey Testo, your first sentence is spot on...depends on what results you're looking for.
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01-10-2017, 10:05 AM #24
poor kimbo
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