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    caber and panic attack

    Hello guys,
    I would like to report my unpleasant experience of this afternoon.
    Last night I took my third dose of 0.5 mg of caber (before I finished 4 weeks 2 x 0.25 mg / week and no problem at all)
    For some days until now I felt a sense of anxiety and apprehension greater than usual, and in particular cold hands and a bit confused mind and a bit depressed humor..
    Today I was a little nervous all morning and this afternoon I went to the gym at 16.00.
    Already during the street on my car i felt a sense of anxiety and cold hands.
    I Rose in gym reception and while waiting to renew my subscription it grew in me a very strong sense of anxiety, very warm inside the body and very cold and sweaty hands, almost paralyzed, and I could hardly speak, heartbeats believe at least 180, a feeling of terror ugly, all this in a few minutes, at most 2-3 .. then slowly vanished, and the gym's manager has not noticed anything, despite talking to me... crazy situation..
    a fews minutes after hands became hot slowly and I started my workout normally, but I was mentally very tired..
    In the past I have already suffered from panic attacks..
    The DA can cause anxiety in your opinion? anyone has had this experience?
    I was happy because my testosterone levels were rising gradually, but I think at this point I suspend the caber (or return at 0.25 mg)
    very very unpleasant experience guys.
    thanks for your valuable answers.

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    Sounds like an ergot reaction, this has got more to do with the molecule class than its action as a DA. Suspend for a week then return on 0.25mg.

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    Hmmm..... That's in interesting reaction. I take .25mg/eod of caber instead of .5mg twice a week. I've never had any reaction like that with taking a lower dose more regularly.

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    Quote Originally Posted by bizzarro View Post
    Sounds like an ergot reaction, this has got more to do with the molecule class than its action as a DA. Suspend for a week then return on 0.25mg.
    Can you explain better what you mean? What means "ergot reaction"?

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    Quote Originally Posted by TestoSuper View Post
    Can you explain better what you mean? What means "ergot reaction"?
    It's a reaction elicited by ergot (an alkaloid found in plants; google ergotism but don't get scared) and rarely by drugs (ergotamine, bromocriptine, caber) based on ergot molecular structure. It consist of peripheral (limbs) vasospasm leading to vasocontriction (narrowing of the arteries), which is consistent with the symtomps you experienced. If it happens again, I advise you to seek medical attention, as you might need a vasodilator (cialis would be great to have at hand).

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    Quote Originally Posted by bizzarro View Post
    It's a reaction elicited by ergot (an alkaloid found in plants; google ergotism but don't get scared) and rarely by drugs (ergotamine, bromocriptine, caber) based on ergot molecular structure. It consist of peripheral (limbs) vasospasm leading to vasocontriction (narrowing of the arteries), which is consistent with the symtomps you experienced. If it happens again, I advise you to seek medical attention, as you might need a vasodilator (cialis would be great to have at hand).
    so you think my reaction is due to vasoconstriction of the arteries caused by ergot? and where is contained ergot? in the Cabaser tablet?
    sorry for my ignorance but this is something absolutely new to me..

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    Quote Originally Posted by TestoSuper View Post
    so you think my reaction is due to vasoconstriction of the arteries caused by ergot? and where is contained ergot? in the Cabaser tablet?
    sorry for my ignorance but this is something absolutely new to me..
    It's just caused by the caber, which by chance is chemically related to ergot, but contains no ergot, as simple as that.

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    Quote Originally Posted by bizzarro View Post
    It's just caused by the caber, which by chance is chemically related to ergot, but contains no ergot, as simple as that.
    ok.. thanks a lot for this particular information..
    Did you do chemical studies? or maybe are you a pharmacist?

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