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    HCG injections

    Hello guys, I have to ask you an advice rgarding HCG dosage and injections.
    I have a vial of 5000 iu to be dissolved in 1 ml of solution.
    I use thin insulin syringes, which have a maximum capacity of 1 ml.
    To obtain 250 iu (for a single injection) I should fill 1/20 of syringe, which is very short and imprecise.. What do you recommend?
    Do exist syringes smaller for sample of 500 ml total so that I can fill to 1/10?

    last year I did not have this problem because I got HCG 1000 iu x 1 ml, so I had to fill the syringe for 1/4 and it was more comfortable!

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    1/20 of a 1ml insulin syringe is 5 units.

    Although this is a small amount it's doable with a 1ml insulin syringe.

    Yes, there are insulin syringes available that hold less volume.

    5 units on a 0.5ml insulin syringe will be 1/10 full.

    I you use 2ml of back water to reconstitute your 5000IU of hcg then 250IU will be 10 units or 1/10 of a 1ml syringe.
    Last edited by numbere; 11-06-2016 at 07:07 AM. Reason: More elaborate detail

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    Ok, then I'll have to get a smaller syringe or alternatively 1 ml of back water (so that I can reconstitute in 2 ml instead of 1 ml) ...
    But can I find 1ml of back water in legal pharmacy?

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    Quote Originally Posted by TestoSuper View Post
    Ok, then I'll have to get a smaller syringe or alternatively 1 ml of back water (so that I can reconstitute in 2 ml instead of 1 ml) ...
    But can I find 1ml of back water in legal pharmacy?
    You don't necessarily need to get different syringes or more bac water.

    You're capable of pinning 5 units with a 1ml insulin syringe.

    I pinned 5 units with a 1ml insulin syringe yesterday morning.

    To be honest I'm not sure if you can but 1ml of bac water at a pharmacy.

    I order my bac water 20ml at a time from bacteriostatic water dot com.
    Last edited by numbere; 11-06-2016 at 07:16 AM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by numbere View Post
    You don't necessarily need to get different syringes or more bac water.

    You're capable of pinning 5 units with a 1ml insulin syringe.

    I pinned 5 units with a 1ml insulin syringe yesterday morning.

    To be honest I'm not sure if you can but 1ml of bac water at a pharmacy.

    I order my bac water 20ml at a time from bacteriostatic water dot com.
    ok I understand... but in my syringe 5 units are not marked precisely, because the cleats mark 2 - 4 - 6 - 8 - 10 etc. you know? Anyway, I will try to be as precise as possible...
    thanks for your answer!

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    It just all depends on how you reconstitute it. You have 5,000 iu regardless of the volume of bac water you use. For instance you could reconstitute it with 10 cc of bac water then each cc would represent 500 iu. Or 1 cc of bac water then one tenth of the cc of water represents 500 iu

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    Quote Originally Posted by TestoSuper View Post
    ok I understand... but in my syringe 5 units are not marked precisely, because the cleats mark 2 - 4 - 6 - 8 - 10 etc. you know? Anyway, I will try to be as precise as possible...
    thanks for your answer!
    I'm not familiar with that type of insulin syringe.

    It seems strange to me that the scale is so imprecise because a diabetic would need to be accurate with their insulin.

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    Quote Originally Posted by numbere View Post
    I'm not familiar with that type of insulin syringe.

    It seems strange to me that the scale is so imprecise because a diabetic would need to be accurate with their insulin.
    I am attaching 2 pictures so you get an idea.
    Total is 100 IU, divided into 10 x 10 ui, but within each 10 ui the cleats are 4 (2 - 4 - 6- 8)
    can you see?

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    Each line on you insulin will represent 500 iu if you reconstitute with one cc of water

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    Okay I see what you're working with now.

    The way I see it you have 3 options.

    1. Get more bac water.

    2. Get more precise insulin pins.

    3. Reconstitute your hcg with 0.8ml of bac water. Then using the insulin pins you currently have 4 units will equal 250IU.

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    Quote Originally Posted by TestoSuper View Post
    I am attaching 2 pictures so you get an idea.
    Total is 100 IU, divided into 10 x 10 ui, but within each 10 ui the cleats are 4 (2 - 4 - 6- 8)
    can you see?

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    Numb and Bio got you covered. Just adding that you should get 'no gap' insulin syringes (the one with fix needle), otherwise you are wasting a lot of HCG . Would be even worse on HGH...

    I always dissolve it in minimum 2mls.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mr.BB View Post
    Numb and Bio got you covered. Just adding that you should get 'no gap' insulin syringes (the one with fix needle), otherwise you are wasting a lot of HCG. Would be even worse on HGH...
    That's a good point B.

    Talk about a horrible design flaw.

    Insulin isn't quite as expensive as gh but it's not what I would consider cheap either.
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    Ok guys, I think I will get more back water and I will dissolve it in 2 ml, it seems the most effective solution.
    I believe that I will find the vials in a legal pharmacy or on the web.

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    Quote Originally Posted by TestoSuper
    Ok guys, I think I will get more back water and I will dissolve it in 2 ml, it seems the most effective solution. I believe that I will find the vials in a legal pharmacy or on the web.
    or you could just make your own bac water. It's easy and a little Google search will tell you how

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    Quote Originally Posted by TestoSuper View Post
    Ok guys, I think I will get more back water and I will dissolve it in 2 ml, it seems the most effective solution.
    I believe that I will find the vials in a legal pharmacy or on the web.
    I've never seen bac water in 1ml amps.

    Just to be sure, you're using bacteriostatic water and not 0.9% sodium chloride (NaCl) solution correct?

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    I shoot for 250 iu every 3.5 days so 500iu per wk. 5000iu amp diluted with 2 ml of bac water so 1/10 ml. My pins are 3/10ths. Works great precise delivery. I also like how small they are. I can walk right past my kids to the bathroom fisting the syringe and vial.

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    Quote Originally Posted by numbere View Post
    I've never seen bac water in 1ml amps.

    Just to be sure, you're using bacteriostatic water and not 0.9% sodium chloride (NaCl) solution correct?
    solvent 0.9% (I don't know if it's sodium chloride, probably yes)

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    can't it be mixed with bacteriostatic water?

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    You really want to use bac water as the hcg mixed with bac water and stored properly will not start to loose potency for 90 days were solvent is meant for one time use

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    Quote Originally Posted by TestoSuper View Post
    solvent 0.9% (I don't know if it's sodium chloride, probably yes)

    can't it be mixed with bacteriostatic water?
    You have 0.9% sodium chloride water.

    Bacteriostatic water is sterile water and 0.9% benzyl alcohol.

    You can add BA to the NaCl water to make bac water.

    Imo just buy 10-20ml of bac water and some new slin pins online.

    You should be able to get both of those products for around $30.
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    Quote Originally Posted by numbere View Post
    You have 0.9% sodium chloride water.

    Bacteriostatic water is sterile water and 0.9% benzyl alcohol.

    You can add BA to the NaCl water to make bac water.

    Imo just buy 10-20ml of bac water and some new slin pins online.

    You should be able to get both of those products for around $30.
    ok, but can I add my 1ml sodium chloride water to the 1ml bacteriostatic water so as to obtain 2 ml of solvent? can I mix the two and after dissolve HCG ?

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    Quote Originally Posted by TestoSuper View Post
    ok, but can I add my 1ml sodium chloride water to the 1ml bacteriostatic water so as to obtain 2 ml of solvent? can I mix the two and after dissolve HCG ?
    It's not a good idea to mix the two solvents.

    Adding 1ml of bac water to 1ml of NaCl water will save you pennies while possibly allowing an infection.

    30ml of bacteriostatic water cost about $5 so there's no reason to cut corners.

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    Quote Originally Posted by numbere View Post
    It's not a good idea to mix the two solvents.

    Adding 1ml of bac water to 1ml of NaCl water will save you pennies while possibly allowing an infection.

    30ml of bacteriostatic water cost about $5 so there's no reason to cut corners.

    Clear, then I will buy bacteriostatic water and I will use 2 ml of that only!

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    Where are you getting bac water from?

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    Quote Originally Posted by theedom
    Where are you getting bac water from?
    Any pharmacy or offline from a medical supply shop. Since syringes and BAC water are not a controlled product, finding online is pretty easy.

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    Quote Originally Posted by TestoSuper View Post
    I am attaching 2 pictures so you get an idea.
    Total is 100 IU, divided into 10 x 10 ui, but within each 10 ui the cleats are 4 (2 - 4 - 6- 8)
    can you see?

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    Italian slin pins? Where did you even got those?

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    .3cc syringes. Easy to order online.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Billegitimate View Post
    .3cc syringes. Easy to order online.
    Was just about to say that. My fav brand is BD microfine 0.3ml. It even has ticks at half units (half IUs)

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