Alright final adjustments before ordering my cycle

[Jonbana]

Ok if you see anything wrong here before I place my order for the amounts i need please chime in



1-7 = 50mg Dbol (25mg 8am 25mg 4pm Pre workout) i can shorten this to 5 or 6 weeks if this is more ideal i have 200 pills at 25mg each enough for 50days I've never use Dbol before so dosage i read to split them up and some say don't... don't think this really matters but twice a day isn't hard for me to do makes a little sense doing it this way over one shot unless its all pre workout . this will be taken with food as well

1-14 = 600mg Deca ( 300mg 2x )

1-16 = 800mg Test E ( 400mg 2x)


1-16 = 1mg Adex ( 0.5mg 2x) Pills are 1mg plan to take half pill on each injection day ( Sun/Wed)

1-16 = NAC 1,200mg ( 1,200mg NAC per day)


PCT = None will taper too 200mg a week for TRT

I Have nova and clomid on Hand just in case any flair ups for gyno

Not running any HCG as i never have before

[Couchlock]

Ok if you see anything wrong here before I place my order for the amounts i need please chime in

1-7 = 50mg Dbol (25mg 8am 25mg 4pm Pre workout) i can shorten this to 5 or 6 weeks if this is more ideal i have 200 pills at 25mg each enough for 50days I've never use Dbol before so dosage i read to split them up and some say don't... don't think this really matters but twice a day isn't hard for me to do makes a little sense doing it this way over one shot unless its all pre workout . this will be taken with food as well

1-14 = 600mg Deca ( 300mg 2x )

1-16 = 800mg Test E ( 400mg 2x)

1-16 = 1mg Adex ( 0.5mg 2x) Pills are 1mg plan to take half pill on each injection day ( Sun/Wed)

1-16 = NAC 1,200mg ( 1,200mg NAC per day)

PCT = None will taper too 200mg a week for TRT

I Have nova and clomid on Hand just in case any flair ups for gyno

Not running any HCG as i never have before

I dunno, get hcg ?

But trt, it probably is not needed

[Jonbana]

thought about hcg still looking into it trying to get my doctor to put me on it next appointment

haven't done much research on hcg since im on TRT but im starting to look into it more

[Couchlock]

thought about hcg still looking into it trying to get my doctor to put me on it next appointment

haven't done much research on hcg since im on TRT but im starting to look into it more

Yeah its required to make pct easier, but on trt, I see no point

[numbere]

Yeah its required to make pct easier, but on trt, I see no point

You would benefit from reading this thread.

hCG and Pregnenolone; What you should know.

[kelkel]

Yeah its required to make pct easier, but on trt, I see no point

Keeping your testicals functioning is a pretty valid point!

[kelkel]

Ok if you see anything wrong here before I place my order for the amounts i need please chime in



1-7 = 50mg Dbol (25mg 8am 25mg 4pm Pre workout) i can shorten this to 5 or 6 weeks if this is more ideal i have 200 pills at 25mg each enough for 50days I've never use Dbol before so dosage i read to split them up and some say don't... don't think this really matters but twice a day isn't hard for me to do makes a little sense doing it this way over one shot unless its all pre workout . this will be taken with food as well

1-14 = 600mg Deca ( 300mg 2x )

1-16 = 800mg Test E ( 400mg 2x)


1-16 = 1mg Adex ( 0.5mg 2x) Pills are 1mg plan to take half pill on each injection day ( Sun/Wed)

1-16 = NAC 1,200mg ( 1,200mg NAC per day)


PCT = None will taper too 200mg a week for TRT

I Have nova and clomid on Hand just in case any flair ups for gyno

Not running any HCG as i never have before

50 mgs dbol is fine, but being it's your first run with it you'd be fine at about 30 mgs per day for 6 weeks. Save the rest, imho.
I have doubts that .5 adex x 2 will suffice. I would think probably .5 x 3 but only BW will give the answer for you.
NAC should be at least 2400 mgs, if not a little more considering what you're running.
You should be running caber as well at .25 x 2.
Find a way to get on HCG , assuming you care about your testicals.

[AR's King Silabolin]

50 mgs dbol is fine, but being it's your first run with it you'd be fine at about 30 mgs per day for 6 weeks. Save the rest, imho.
I have doubts that .5 adex x 2 will suffice. I would think probably .5 x 3 but only BW will give the answer for you.
NAC should be at least 2400 mgs, if not a little more considering what you're running.
You should be running caber as well at .25 x 2.
Find a way to get on HCG, assuming you care about your testicals.

See this mrBB? Kel suggests 2400+ mg? What to do now bro...i think we are fucked with kidneystone or destroyed liver

[Mr.BB]

See this mrBB? Kel suggests 2400+ mg? What to do now bro...i think we are fucked with kidneystone or destroyed liver

NAC is great, it increases glutathione which is a great antioxidant. The problem is that NAC oxidizes when in contact with air, and oxidized NAC can create kidney stones.

I use pharma NAC which comes in effervescent tablets, less oxidation problems, you guys buying in bulk are probably taking some oxidized NAC.

Take some vit C and alkaline water to help excrete it.

My question is: are you sure that increasing the amount of ingested NAC you are increasing the amount of glutathione??

[NACH3]

50 mgs dbol is fine, but being it's your first run with it you'd be fine at about 30 mgs per day for 6 weeks. Save the rest, imho.
I have doubts that .5 adex x 2 will suffice. I would think probably .5 x 3 but only BW will give the answer for you.
NAC should be at least 2400 mgs, if not a little more considering what you're running.
You should be running caber as well at .25 x 2.
Find a way to get on HCG, assuming you care about your testicals.

When taking drol/or d-Bol - I'd run NAC at 2400/day day either pulsed or ran straight - I agree start 25- 30mgs w/b-bol it can spike your BP in no time and your E2!
I'd certainly heed Kels advice and run it on cycle since you've tried not running on cycle much more?!?!

[numbere]

My question is: are you sure that increasing the amount of ingested NAC you are increasing the amount of glutathione??

I'm just going off memory here, would have to go though the pdfs on my main pc to double check the numbers.

Blood plasma levles of glutathione can be increased over 500%.

When taking 600mg/d of NAC blood plasma levles of glutathione are increased by about 40%.

[kelkel]

I'm just going off memory here, would have to go though the pdfs on my main pc to double check the numbers.

Blood plasma levles of glutathione can be increased over 500%.

When taking 600mg/d of NAC blood plasma levles of glutathione are increased by about 40%.

Love to see that pdf if you can find it. My understanding is that the dose titration will not incur a linear increase in glutathione but it will substantially increase nonetheless.

[numbere]

Love to see that pdf if you can find it. My understanding is that the dose titration will not incur a linear increase in glutathione but it will substantially increase nonetheless.

I'm behind on a lot of stuff at the moment so I'll likely crash in the library tonight.

Will post the data sometime tomorrow when I get home.

From what I remember the relationship between NAC and glutathione is exponential until doses of NAC get large in comparison to surface area.

When doses get bigger then the relationship becomes linear, but the data is sometimes difficult to extrapolate for our use because they use body surface area as a parameter.

[Jonbana]

50 mgs dbol is fine, but being it's your first run with it you'd be fine at about 30 mgs per day for 6 weeks. Save the rest, imho.
I have doubts that .5 adex x 2 will suffice. I would think probably .5 x 3 but only BW will give the answer for you.
NAC should be at least 2400 mgs, if not a little more considering what you're running.
You should be running caber as well at .25 x 2.
Find a way to get on HCG, assuming you care about your testicals.

My Dbol comes in 25mg tabs.. so either 25mg a day or 50mg a day .. if I decide to go 50mg would you split the dosages ? or single does this

Caber I cannot find from my source any other things you would recommend?i can get Proviron 25mg tabs

The Adex I will start with 2x a week at 0.5 monitor and increase to 3x a week probably mid cycle

Nac I will dump as well

Looking into HCG

[kelkel]

If convenient split it, but it doesn't really matter in the end. Still think you'd be fine with half that amount. Think marathon not sprint.
You can get DA's from various peptide warehouses. If all else fails then B6 can help here as well.
Why dump NAC?
I've heard you say you're researching HCG before. The research has been done. It works, use it. You only get one set of testicals.

[NACH3]

If convenient split it, but it doesn't really matter in the end. Still think you'd be fine with half that amount. Think marathon not sprint.
You can get DA's from various peptide warehouses. If all else fails then B6 can help here as well.
Why dump NAC?
I've heard you say you're researching HCG before. The research has been done. It works, use it. You only get one set of testicals.

This^^^

You need NAC for liver support

You need hCG b/c it mimics our LH production keeping our testes functional on cycle(it is proven to work on cycle) use it!

DA? You need to have it at least on hand(caber or prami) adjustments made during mid cycle BW!

AI & 800mgs test I'd say start @ .25 pill EOD if your bw shows you don't aromatize at a faster rate(even when I'm at 10-12% I still aromatize faster than most it seems) just sharing my experiences - hood luck

[Jonbana]

Sorry miss typo last comment

NAC will be doubled so 2400mg a day sorry

by Researching I need to find a source for HCG

[NACH3]

Sorry miss typo last comment

NAC will be doubled so 2400mg a day sorry

by Researching I need to find a source for HCG

Many places J - google and you should be fine.... & check out the ugl section there's many sites listed in there that should carry it also

Edit / find one that deals with many of these sort of ancillaries etc

[Jonbana]

haven't delt with online sources... always my local source , currently found a new source dealiong with them now scared but its a step just don't want to be scammed or anything but yes im working on this day and night safely and responsibly , im actually holding this blast back a bit ,

just getting every in advance and extra no rush more information the better

[michael30]

JB I highly recommend using Hcg . I didn't for the first several years on trt. I wish I would have. If you want to pm me I'll let you know what I had to deal with, don't really feel like posting it on the open forum. Once I finally started I felt alittle better overall. I also noticed my libido is alittle better when I'm on it as well. Plus I know most people say they don't care if there testicles shrink. But trust me when they lose half there size and look like a 12 year old boys you will think differently lol.

[Couchlock]

This^^^

You need NAC for liver support

You need hCG b/c it mimics our LH production keeping our testes functional on cycle(it is proven to work on cycle) use it!

DA? You need to have it at least on hand(caber or prami) adjustments made during mid cycle BW!

AI & 800mgs test I'd say start @ .25 pill EOD if your bw shows you don't aromatize at a faster rate(even when I'm at 10-12% I still aromatize faster than most it seems) just sharing my experiences - hood luck

What is DA?

[numbere]

Love to see that pdf if you can find it. My understanding is that the dose titration will not incur a linear increase in glutathione but it will substantially increase nonetheless.

Cysteine supplementation improves the erythrocyte glutathione synthesis rate in children with severe edematous malnutrition

Antioxidant-related Parameters in Patients Treated for Cancer Chemoprevention With N-Acetylcysteine

N-acetylcysteine for antioxidant therapy: pharmacology and clinical utility

[numbere]

What is DA?

Dopamine Agonist

See Dopamine Agonists under that attached link for a more in depth explanation.

Ancillary Reference Guide