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    Thumbs up First cycle logs

    Hello!
    I just started cycling and I'll be posting what's happening to me during this days.
    Well... I'm 21 years old, 6''1', 178lbs, 8% body fat with 1.5 years of training.
    I know many will say I shouldn't be on roids since I'm just 21 and not going pro, but I still wanted to try.
    I'm doing the standard newbie cycle:

    -Weeks 1-10 250mg 2x/week of Test E.
    -Weeks 1-12 Arimidex generic 0.25mg EOD
    -Weeks 4-10 hCG 250 iu 3x/week

    PCT: Starting week 13: Nolva 40/20/20/20

    My Anastrazole is a little pill, so I'm not sure how I'll break it in 4. Should I just use 0.5mg E2D?
    Thank you in advance!

    My nutrition:
    I'll be lean bulking with a 500 calories surplus, which is 3500 cals/day.
    -0.35g of fat per lbm of body weight.
    -2.5g of carbs per lbm of body weight
    -1.1g og protein per lbm...

    Well my first injection was really smooth, didn't even feel it and my glute is not even sore, I guess the trick was to heat the oil with hot water and use a 23g needle.
    (I'm not from an english speaking country, so just forgive me for my grammar)
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    Your pct should be 4 weeks and you could crush the pill and split it if you need to. You can also run your hcg right up to 3 days prior to starting your pct
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    Thanks. Yeah, my bad, I forgot the last /20 on the nolva.
    I just have 1 5000 iu vial of hCG which will last for 6.5 weeks. So I guess my balls will shrink for the first weeks.
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    Post some pics . Looking forward to your log.
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    Quote Originally Posted by wellshii View Post
    Post some pics . Looking forward to your log.
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    Get another vial of Hcg , there's more to it than stopping balls shrink. Run it 250ius twice per week from now until 3 days before PCT.

    Add Clomid to your PCT at 75/50/50/50

    Oh, and eat. Then eat some more. And then eat. Add calories every week and up your protein when on cycle to AT LEAST 1.5g per lean lb.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Back In Black View Post
    Get another vial of Hcg , there's more to it than stopping balls shrink. Run it 250ius twice per week from now until 3 days before PCT.

    Add Clomid to your PCT at 75/50/50/50

    Oh, and eat. Then eat some more. And then eat. Add calories every week and up your protein when on cycle to AT LEAST 1.5g per lean lb.
    Ok, if I run the hCG 2x/week then it would last me the entire cycle.
    And I will buy Clomid

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    First Cycle info PDF

    I gathered pretty much all the important information of a newbie cycle in this PDF with the different opinions that I read on forums.
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    I need your help.
    Since I was recommended to start using hCG right away, I was looking for bacteriostatic water and I found out that there is none commercially available in my country, so I read that hCG could be mixed with physiological saline (NaCl 0,9%) but it doesn't last as much as bacteriostatic water since it doesn't contain 0.9% benzyl alcohol as a bacteriostatic preservative. I've also read on forums that regular saline still lasts up to 3 months wth hCG.
    Should I just use saline from now on, or maybe wait a few more weeks (3 more) to start using hCG and make sure it's still working?

    Thank you!

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    Get some Benzyl Alcohol and batch your own by adding 1-2% to the solution, saline/water only is meant for immediate use and not for storing.

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    You really need to worry about your diet beacuse you are small for your size.And I am not trying too be rude.But you should consider waiting until you get your diet in check and put some size on natty.Beacuse if you dont learn how to eat properly you will lose anything you gain if you gain anything at all.Beacuse training for 1.5 yrs is really nothing at your age.

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    Quote Originally Posted by bizzarro View Post
    Get some Benzyl Alcohol and batch your own by adding 1-2% to the solution, saline/water only is meant for immediate use and not for storing.
    There is no commercially available benzyl alcohol. There are some meds that have benzyl alcohol with other components.
    What should I do?
    I got the sterile water.
    A guy on some forums said that his hCG lasted 60 days just with NaCl.
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    Quote Originally Posted by FknAesthetic View Post
    There is no commercially available benzyl alcohol. There are some meds that have benzyl alcohol with other components.
    What should I do?
    I got the sterile water.
    A guy on some forums said that his hCG lasted 60 days just with NaCl.
    If those meds consist of injectable B12 then I guess it's fine.

    Again, w/o a preservative HCG is safe only for immediate use.

    Cannot you internationally order bac water or just BA? I got mine from the UK via eBay. Some sources stock it too.

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    Quote Originally Posted by bizzarro View Post
    If those meds consist of injectable B12 then I guess it's fine.

    Again, w/o a preservative HCG is safe only for immediate use.

    Cannot you internationally order bac water or just BA? I got mine from the UK via eBay. Some sources stock it too.
    Thanks bizzarro for the help!
    I had to buy it from the US and the shipping was pretty expensive, $45 god dammit. At least I'm sure it will arrive within the next 2 weeks.
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    First Week log

    First Week
    Well... Test-E takes 4-5 weeks to kick, so I haven't felt anything in terms of strength or size gains.
    I've injected myself 3 times now and I only feel the glute muscle a little sore the next day, but not much.
    I've noticed increased sex drive, but I can't tell if it's because of the test or because I got a new fuckbuddy hahaha.
    My workout routine is everyday a different muscle group once a week, and I'll switch it to push-pull-legs day twice a week following most of the FST-7 program on my 3rd week of the cycle.
    I will start using hCG Subq the 3rd week because I'll get the bacteriostatic water then.
    So as far as it goes, everything is pretty much the same.

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    as above i'd add clomid to pct/HCG refrigerate will last longer imo.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jaydenn View Post
    as above i'd add clomid to pct/HCG refrigerate will last longer imo.
    Yes, I'll add clomid. From what I've read, the hCG refrigarate mixed with the saline solution lasts 1 week, so I won't risk it.
    Thanks for the advice!

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    Nice wheels bro! Can you get blood work done fairly easy where you live? You really need to see where you are mid way through your cycle. That way you can make any necessary adjustments before they become problematic. One example is estrogen. Everyone aromatizases differently and you definitely want to keep your estrogen within normal range. Good luck!
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    Quote Originally Posted by Strongblood View Post
    Nice wheels bro! Can you get blood work done fairly easy where you live? You really need to see where you are mid way through your cycle. That way you can make any necessary adjustments before they become problematic. One example is estrogen. Everyone aromatizases differently and you definitely want to keep your estrogen within normal range. Good luck!
    Yes, blood tests are no problem at all, I will take one then! Thanks.
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    Quote Originally Posted by FknAesthetic View Post
    I had to buy it from the US and the shipping was pretty expensive, $45 god dammit. At least I'm sure it will arrive within the next 2 weeks.

    Are you saying your testicals aren't worth $22.50 each?
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    Quote Originally Posted by kelkel View Post
    Are you saying your testicals aren't worth $22.50 each?
    That's why I bought it paying for it 9 times its original worth.
    Edit: How did you get such vascular legs?

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    Quote Originally Posted by FknAesthetic View Post
    That's why I bought it paying for it 9 times its original worth.
    Edit: How did you get such vascular legs?
    Genetic freak. Has even has veins sticking out on his traps.

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    Second Week log

    Second Week
    In this week I've noticed that my nippples are kinda fluffy (more than usual) since I've had gyno from when I was kid and never removed it.
    My legs didnt hurt as much the next days of training as they usually do, and I trained them like always, so maybe this is the Test-E making its thing.
    My dad surprised me with vacations outside the country for 8 days on january and I almost turned it down because of the cycle, but after some research I came across an article that showed that it was ok if you inject double the dose right before and after the missing week (and also double the AI dose). I've been having problems on what to do with the hCG for my vacations tho... There's no problem about missing work outs during that week because there's a gym nearby the place (thank God).

    Well, that's pretty much it for this week. I'm anxious to feel the real gainZ!

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    Quote Originally Posted by FknAesthetic View Post
    Second Week
    In this week I've noticed that my nippples are kinda fluffy (more than usual) since I've had gyno from when I was kid and never removed it.
    My legs didnt hurt as much the next days of training as they usually do, and I trained them like always, so maybe this is the Test-E making its thing.
    My dad surprised me with vacations outside the country for 8 days on january and I almost turned it down because of the cycle, but after some research I came across an article that showed that it was ok if you inject double the dose right before and after the missing week (and also double the AI dose). I've been having problems on what to do with the hCG for my vacations tho... There's no problem about missing work outs during that week because there's a gym nearby the place (thank God).

    Well, that's pretty much it for this week. I'm anxious to feel the real gainZ!
    I don't agree with double dosing.

    It just seems counter productive to doing it.

    I can see dosing whole week at once instead of twice a week, but skipping a week and making up with double dose seems not good.

    Id think it would confuse the system

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    Third Week
    Nothing has changed, just an increase of reps on every excercice on my legs workout.
    Bacteriostatic water already arrived, so I'll start using hCG .
    I started eating more this week without tracking macros, mostly clean food with aprox a 500 surplus daily and making sure I get my protein macros.
    Forgot to mention I started using the FST-7 workout and I really like it because every muscle group feels sore the next day.
    I should start noticing changes this week, right?

    Edit: If anyone wants the FST-7 defined DVD on a decent quality, PM me and I'll send it to you.
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    Protein seems very low to grow

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    Fourth Week
    Only difference I've felt is getting stronger in my leg exercices, I could do more reps with the same weight and I also increased the weight on my squats.
    I've been partying pretty much this week, but after new year I'll start keeping track of my macros again.
    Should I start using hCG ? Because I fear that my gear isn't working.
    Thanks

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    Quote Originally Posted by FknAesthetic View Post
    Should I start using hCG? Because I fear that my gear isn't working.
    My nuts definitely shrunk a little bit, so I did my first hCG injection.

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    Fifth Week
    I fear my test is fake because I thought I'd gain more muscle and strength. I only improved my shoulder press and squats but just as I would bulking as a natty. And I've gained 6lbs including fat. Is it normal to take this long to kick in?
    Thanks

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    Quote Originally Posted by FknAesthetic View Post
    Fifth Week
    I fear my test is fake because I thought I'd gain more muscle and strength. I only improved my shoulder press and squats but just as I would bulking as a natty. And I've gained 6lbs including fat. Is it normal to take this long to kick in?
    Thanks
    Only bloodwork can tell for sure.
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    Bro things take time you didn't have a base to work with and it's only your 5th week.So don't expect to look like Arnold in 12.You got to pay your dues there are no short cuts.
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    Could be fake gear or poor dieting..If you are not taking in enough food and protein your body will not grow no matter how much test you inject. And as stated above only blood work or a gear test will tell you for sure. You can buy steroid test online for around thirty bucks and it will tell you if there is actually test in it or not.
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    Quote Originally Posted by songdog View Post
    Bro things take time you didn't have a base to work with and it's only your 5th week.So don't expect to look like Arnold in 12.You got to pay your dues there are no short cuts.
    Of course, I don't expect to grow that much, but at least I should be increasing my strength on every excercice and I should've gained more weight, right?

    Quote Originally Posted by rt4man View Post
    Could be fake gear or poor dieting..If you are not taking in enough food and protein your body will not grow no matter how much test you inject. And as stated above only blood work or a gear test will tell you for sure. You can buy steroid test online for around thirty bucks and it will tell you if there is actually test in it or not.
    I track my macros and I'm on a 500-750 caloric surplus, so I wouldn't say it's poor dieting.
    The shipping costs to this blood works in south america are way more expensive

    Thanks for all the replys tho

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    If you are eating a 500-700 calorie surplus then that is enough for a pound to a pound and a half week increase in weight.
    You have put on 6 pounds in 5 weeks.
    The only way you could have put on more weight is by holding water.

    If you are not happy with your weight gain then eat more food.
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    Quote Originally Posted by The Deadlifting Dog View Post
    ...If you are not happy with your weight gain then eat more food.
    But then I'll be adding a lot of fat along muscle
    Edit: Ohh I get it. Then I'll eat 1000 cals surplus and see how it goes.
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    Sixth Week
    OH MY FUCKING JESUS LORD FUCKING GOD HOLY SHIT!!
    I gained 8lbs just this week, making it a total of 14lbs since I started this cycle!
    Hiting PR's on every god damn excercice, I was stuck on my bench for 3 months and I increased it by 3 reps just this week.
    Looking full, pumped ASF, and fat gains were minimal by judging myself on the mirror.
    My lat spread has widen up pretty much and shoulders are looking fuller.
    I haven't been tracking macros this week but I'm making sure I'm eating more than 3500 cals daily, I'd say I might be eating 3800-4000 cals.
    My 8 days vacations starts today, so I'll pin myself right before leaving. I'll try to smuggle 1g of Arimidex tho.
    I've been running the hCG so my nuts are fine.
    The first pic is me at the beggining of the week and the second was taken after todays workout.
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    I'll be the dick here. You didn't put in your time prior to starting this cycle. You are too young. Some people will blow smoke up your ass. you could have achieved the same results to date with diet and training. I hope it's worth your hpta. Sorry kid.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Capebuffalo View Post
    ...You are too young... you could have achieved the same results to date with diet and training. I hope it's worth your hpta.
    Tell me something I dont already know... Btw, my HPTA won't be necessarily fucked up from this cycle.

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    Quote Originally Posted by FknAesthetic View Post
    Tell me something I dont already know... Btw, my HPTA won't be necessarily fucked up from this cycle.
    And wats to say it won't.You are taking a big risk for something that with a lil effort you could've did natty.And I will be surprised with in a yr if you still have those gains with your diet.

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