12-11-2016, 10:09 AM #1
Ending cycle momday
Well last pin is going to be monday, test c 300mg,
Will continue my hcg and car at 35mg ed until pct.
I'm already planning next cycle of test, eq, var
I'm thinking though, I was lightly considering cruising into the next cycle at 100mg to 200mg per week of cyp.
I'm leaning towards pct like I planed but can't help thinking about cruising for 60 days into next cycle?
12-11-2016, 10:11 AM #2
12-11-2016, 10:19 AM #3
You just finishing your 1st cycle, stop thinking about future cycles.
Enjoy and relax, whats the rush!
12-11-2016, 10:50 AM #4
12-11-2016, 02:42 PM #5
Do you have any befor and after pics yet.
12-11-2016, 02:49 PM #6
I just have to say the I've tried your stack of Test, EQ and Var. It was without a doubt the most expensive and unimpressive cycle ever. It did almost nothing for me.
12-11-2016, 03:36 PM #7
12-11-2016, 04:43 PM #8
And go to the mens dept and buy some new shorts
12-11-2016, 04:58 PM #9
Its easy to get ahead of yourself with future cycle plans but try to not give into temptation and pay your dues by doing a proper pct, training and eating correctly to keep as much of your gains as possible all the while you keep on educationg yourself. Do your research and ask questions but the smart guy does as little cycling as possible.
12-11-2016, 06:54 PM #10
12-11-2016, 07:15 PM #11
12-13-2016, 05:51 PM #12
12-13-2016, 05:58 PM #13
If you have your mind set on a second cycle that soon than a cruise would be ideal as PCT can be harsh with hormonse , theres really no point in shutting yourself down trying to recover with a PCT than jumping right back into a cycle that's when you bridge and cruise BLAST cruise BLAST PCT.....
if you blast than PCT than BLAST again that's gonna be rough on the body your hormones will be all over the place if your going to PCT complete the PCT and wait 12 weeks past PCT before next cycle to let your body fully recover
12-13-2016, 06:29 PM #14Pct starts in 19 days then, ill spend the next 6 months training natural, solidifying and keeping gains
12-13-2016, 06:42 PM #15
I just want to take advantage of the mega Christmas sale my source is going to have.
I want a "cutting" cycle for lack of a better word. I know diet dependant.
Test e or sustanon base, and either winstrol , equipose, masteron , anavar , it's mix of 3 orv4
Test and mast and var, seem like a good stack.
How should a test, mast, var cycle look like. Weeks and dosages
12-13-2016, 07:10 PM #16
If you don't plan to cycle for another year , get on a good safe PCT , and get back to normal than .
Take advantage of your sources Christmas sale just have them for next year don't need to use them right away
If you want a cutting cycle top choices are like
Test obviously ,
Tren / t3 / clen / mast
EQ is good but makes you hungry usually remember that winny drys you out that's good to finish a cycle , anavar is good but winny stomps this any day
if you want a basic cutting cycle cruise around 200mg test E and cut if you want a hard core cutting cycle clen / t3 / tren / mast / test etc not all of them but those are the top choices
12-13-2016, 07:20 PM #17
Im running a cutting cycle of Primo, Test, Var, and Winny right now and im liking it a lot.
1-20: 700MG Test E
1-20: 900MG Primo E
1-5: 70MG Var ED
15-20: 50MG Winny
12-13-2016, 07:32 PM #18
12-13-2016, 07:34 PM #19
Do a test p / var cycle. Test P 75mg or so EoD for ten weeks. 50mg Var ED for first five weeks.
12-14-2016, 03:18 AM #20
Advising a guy just finishing his 1st cycle to blast and cruise, and not PCT, its stupid.
It seems you dont know much about the human body, or your interpretation of what is rough and harsh are wrong.
Nothing wrong with cycling and PCT, resting for "time on"+"PCT time". Nothing wrong with cycling once or twice per year. Plenty of ppl do it with success. It is worse on your overall health to blast and cruise, and much more harsher on your hormones and HPTA.
12-14-2016, 06:32 AM #21
12-14-2016, 11:28 AM #22
12-16-2016, 09:32 PM #23
12-22-2016, 01:29 PM #24
How's this look?
I would modify it to 12 weeks total
1-12 300 mg test e
5-12 300 mg masterone [100MG EOD (drostanolone p)
6-12 50mg anavar ED
1-14.5 ADEX .5mg eod
2-14.5 hcg 500 iu (250 iu e3d)
Of course the standard
I am going to order a next cycle getting ready to use it in august.
I do not want to bulk, not my thing, its too much for me to see myself go up soo much in weight.
I do feel good moving big man weight, but I really won't ever be powelifter class heavy lifts, so I'm going to stick to staying as tight , lean and strong as I can.
I like being under 145lbs, this 155 -160 I'm currently at is too too much extra
I like sub 150 or 150 max.
Please give me opinions on above cycle.
Is like to hear Mr.BB's, KEL-KEL's, NUMBRE, deadlifting dog's, austinite's, or the likes opinions on this
12-22-2016, 01:36 PM #25
This is after last shot before my pct wait time
I'm assuming I got about 10lbs of fat to shred now.
I know how to get lean, but don't think the diet that takes is a good match during pct.
I wanna hold as much as I can as far as muscle goes, feel free to outline a diet for loosing fat, while maintaining a good percentage of gains during pct
12-22-2016, 04:02 PM #26
12-22-2016, 04:37 PM #27
In spite of our past head butt, I respect and value your advice and comments. I usually look to you for sound advice.
Is that var for 10 weeks too bad on liver?
It will be an expensive 10 weeks.lol
If I can't run var, would you run the mast with test alone?
I was also considering a test base suspension as a workout boost at 25 or 50 mg 3x week?
Again just getting opinions to why and how, just bouncing ideas
12-22-2016, 04:53 PM #28
Var is one of the least hepatotoxic AAS.
A good alternative to var is tbol but once again I'd use it for at least 10 weeks for full benefits.
Yeah I'd definitely use test and mast again but at higher doses than you've proposed.
There's a 50/50 chance you'll get a boost from test base as some are non responders.
Imo daily cialias is a better workout enhancer than test base, while also having additional health benefits.
12-22-2016, 05:08 PM #29
12-22-2016, 05:41 PM #30
So what doses of test and mast would you propose?, also what amount of tbol?
Don't be shy on recommending doses, just getting ideas.
Tbol is half the cost of var, I choose var as proposed because it's the least hepa toxic oral I've researched.
12-22-2016, 09:29 PM #31
Coulokd: talk to your primary care doc about a family history of BPH.
12-22-2016, 09:45 PM #32
12-23-2016, 01:01 AM #33
The East German men were taking 60mg/d for an entire year or longer as an athletic performance enhancer.
Tbol and var likely have similar hepatotoxicities.
There's German notes of athletes taking 35mg/d for their entire careers.
I've used mast p twice and didn't notice much effect until around 600-700mg/week.
Once was with 500mg other test and the other was with a TRT dose and 500mg of NPP.
I really liked the NPP mast combo and will run it again this summer.
12-23-2016, 08:59 AM #34
300 mg/ml (100mg prop, 200mg enan./ml)
I want to go
500 test enanthate 1-12
400 mg mast. 3-12
50mg var ed, 3-12
Is that a good ratio of test to mast?
Should I increase or decrease test and mast doses?
Last edited by Couchlockd; 12-23-2016 at 01:46 PM.
12-24-2016, 09:47 AM #35
Everyone responds slightly differently to these compounds.
I still think it's not the best idea to add two new compounds to your second cycle.
Imo buy all three if your getting a holiday discount but stick with test and var for this blast.
12-24-2016, 10:21 AM #36
Its going to take 300$ just in var alone.
Thanks for your advice brother.
Are my test to mast ratio good?
Is it a good idea on the mixed ester mast (100mg/ml prop, 200mg/ml enanthate )?
I could go test and oral winny, for half the price of var, but I don't want to beat my liver senseless. Lol
Also Arimidex should suffice for e2 control on this cycle as well?
Last edited by Couchlockd; 12-24-2016 at 10:27 AM.
12-25-2016, 01:17 AM #37
Personally I like to run my mast higher but I think what you've proposed is a great place to start.
Stay away from the mixed esters, they're less expensive for a reason.
Run your dex the same way you did for your first cycle of 600mg/week of test.
12-25-2016, 09:13 AM #38
12-26-2016, 11:54 AM #39
Anavar would cost me $300 to $350 for 10 weeks at 50mg ed.
I do like the profile of var compared to mast, I may just spend the extra dough to get anavar. But is 50mg ed enough?.
Is 50 mg ed for a 150 to 155lb human male enough? 60 to 70 mg would start to tip the cost to effectiveness ratio in the favor of not worth it.
Wwnd? (What would numbre do?)
12-26-2016, 12:48 PM #40
Just comes down to personal preference.
You should be fine with 50mg/d of var for that time period.
The dose of var used mostly comes down to quality.
You can get nice results on as little as 20-40mg/d of pharmacy grade var.
Using lower quality product you'll need to be in the 70-100mg/d range for similar effects.
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