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    Will Test E mess me up mentally?

    So I suffer from panic disorder and was wondering if test E would influence that? I know no one here can say what it's going to do for me but has anyone had a bad expirience with this?

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    I cant speak for all but no it wont if you use it correctly. I have never suffered from what you have. I dont suffer, I overcome Pct might be a bitch for you idk. How good are you at controlling your emotions and channeling them into something good? No one can be you but you. Just gotta take it slow.

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    I can't speak for everyone but I have severe PTSD and, everything about my disorder vastly improves while on cycle, to the point where I'm now considering blasting and cruising for the rest of my life.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Slowhand View Post
    I can't speak for everyone but I have severe PTSD and, everything about my disorder vastly improves while on cycle, to the point where I'm now considering blasting and cruising for the rest of my life.
    That would be a HUGE mistake beacuse you would develope a lot of other problems.
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    My psyche isn't exactly the gold standard of health I believe.
    The effects of AAS on the psyche are both positive and negative.
    For me, I'd say somewhat lower dosages (like 500mg test e a week max),
    seems to be mostly positive, while higher dosages can lead to more challenges.
    Ofcourse, in the end it's all up to how you react and deal with your emotions,
    But I think a study done on test e and psychological disturbances showed a pretty good point of reference;

    250mg test e - less than 4% developed physchological issues
    500mg test e - about 10%
    1000mg test e - about 40%
    (These numbers are from memory, but fairly accurate for the high and low dose)
    Also, by psychological issues, this can mean pretty much anything from having a somewhat higher depression score compared to before to full blown psychosis. So this study is merely saying (which is quite obvious), that higher doses of testosterone is correlated with more psychological issues of any kind, or said in another more accurate way; higher dosages can cause more emotional stress.

    As for panic attacks, I've had a couple of episodes with that, but it went away when I understood this was a psychological issue and not a physical one. (It felt like I was gonna die after all), and the attacks were more related to multiple stressors at once in my life than the dose I was using.

    But to be prudent, stay with a low dose of test e and see how it goes, and remember you don't die from a panic attack while on AAS.
    It could help you by calming you down or do the opposite, no way of knowing unless you've used before.
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    I am more relaxed with a better sense of well being on test.

    Not sure if i'm justifying use because I'm surely on for life for a multitude of reasons.

    Stay away from the stuff man.

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    I would anticipate some issues with the panic disorder not from the test e, but from the apprehension and power of suggestion that doing it might exacerbate your condition. As far as the test e itself goes, I have always found I have less anxiety and worry on cycle and now on TRT - a lot less. I think I had anxiety issues for a couple of years because of the low test I was unaware of.

    I would consider doing something like the deep breathing (in through the nose, hold, out through the mouth, hold - all for silent 4 seconds count) to blunt the adrenaline response just prior to and after pinning the first number of times because as you know, when you have a panic disorder you can develop triggers.
    Just a thought.

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    Great response. That's what I plan on doing.

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    Quote Originally Posted by songdog View Post
    That would be a HUGE mistake beacuse you would develope a lot of other problems.
    I'm probably going to sleep deprive and get put on TRT... my test test has me at 405ng/dl natty. Which would be cool for someone 20 years older.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Slowhand View Post

    I'm probably going to sleep deprive and get put on TRT... my test test has me at 405ng/dl natty. Which would be cool for someone 20 years older.
    The thing is, if you function at that level ok, then that's your normal

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    I have never suffered from test e, but I did get depressed on deca . Keep in mind I did the cycle all wrong because of bad advice. If I were to do it again I would do more research.

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    Quote Originally Posted by lilbigjuicy View Post
    So I suffer from panic disorder and was wondering if test E would influence that? I know no one here can say what it's going to do for me but has anyone had a bad expirience with this?
    Do you know what your baseline testosterone levels are?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Narkissos View Post
    Do you know what your baseline testosterone levels are?

    Yessir 581 ng/dL

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    Quote Originally Posted by lilbigjuicy View Post
    Yessir 581 ng/dL
    No aggression at baseline, right?
    Have you cycled prior?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Narkissos View Post
    No aggression at baseline, right?
    Have you cycled prior?

    No aggression at baseline, nor have I ran a cycle

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    Noted.
    Like you said: no one here can tell you for sure.
    You'll have to be your own barometer.
    If you do decide to try... start with a low dose cycle. No more than 250mg.

    Are you medicated for panic disorder?
    Also... what is your diet like?

    Enough protein? B-Vitamins? EFAs?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Narkissos View Post
    Noted.
    Like you said: no one here can tell you for sure.
    You'll have to be your own barometer.
    If you do decide to try... start with a low dose cycle. No more than 250mg.

    Are you medicated for panic disorder?
    Also... what is your diet like?

    Enough protein? B-Vitamins? EFAs?




    Yes my diet is fine meal prep every week with correct nutrients, multi vitamins ect, and I am medicated, currently taking sertraline 50mg and have lorazepam if needed. I am planning on doing 250mg 2x a week for 10 weeks. You think that is still to high of a dose?

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    Quote Originally Posted by lilbigjuicy View Post

    Yes my diet is fine meal prep every week with correct nutrients, multi vitamins ect, and I am medicated, currently taking sertraline 50mg and have lorazepam if needed. I am planning on doing 250mg 2x a week for 10 weeks. You think that is still to high of a dose?
    Don't do steroids with Zoloft and atavan,

    Ssri is a mistake on juice, imho
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    Quote Originally Posted by Couchlockd View Post
    Don't do steroids with Zoloft and atavan,

    Ssri is a mistake on juice, imho
    Why is that?

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    Quote Originally Posted by TrailRunAZ View Post

    Why is that?
    Because it shows severe underlying mental disorder.

    As well as being ruthless on the actual condition.

    You know they say you could have a paradoxical reaction to these drugs, just throw in un-natural levels or hormones and imbalances, how much worse it could possibly be

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    Quote Originally Posted by Couchlockd View Post
    Because it shows severe underlying mental disorder.

    As well as being ruthless on the actual condition.

    You know they say you could have a paradoxical reaction to these drugs, just throw in un-natural levels or hormones and imbalances, how much worse it could possibly be
    So this is more a cautionary statement/opinion than anything noted in literature or documented? And not trying to be an arse, was just wondering if there was something I was not aware of in drug interactions, but you are hypothesizing on worst case possibilities with everything involved. Understood, thanks!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Couchlockd View Post
    Because it shows severe underlying mental disorder.

    As well as being ruthless on the actual condition.

    You know they say you could have a paradoxical reaction to these drugs, just throw in un-natural levels or hormones and imbalances, how much worse it could possibly be
    I have the Ativan for in case of emergency. I have a panic disorder, this is not not a "severe" mental disorder. SSRI regulate mood by regulating serotonin neurotransmitters in the brain. Plenty of people on this forum are on cycles using ssris with no issues. That's why I'm asking if anyone has dealt with this, clearly you haven't so I'm not sure why you're commenting.

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    Quote Originally Posted by lilbigjuicy View Post

    I have the Ativan for in case of emergency. I have a panic disorder, this is not not a "severe" mental disorder. SSRI regulate mood by regulating serotonin neurotransmitters in the brain. Plenty of people on this forum are on cycles using ssris with no issues. That's why I'm asking if anyone has dealt with this, clearly you haven't so I'm not sure why you're commenting.
    Oh, I qualify for boat loads of psych drugs I choose not to take them

    My mother is why, she's royally fucked because of them

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    Quote Originally Posted by Couchlockd View Post
    The thing is, if you function at that level ok, then that's your normal
    I have all the signs of low T now @405ng

    Two years ago my baseline was 696ng/dl.and I haven't cycled in 3 years. I'm in my early 30s. It really sucks that most doctors won't consider you for TRT until you're below 200ng/dl.

    I originally thought my low T signs were Post SSRI Sexual Dysfunction since everything went severely down hill after I went on Paxil for 6 months.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Couchlockd View Post
    Because it shows severe underlying mental disorder.
    Nowadays docs will throw them at you like candies.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Slowhand View Post
    I originally thought my low T signs were Post SSRI Sexual Dysfunction since everything went severely down hill after I went on Paxil for 6 months.
    Perhaps they are, have you ever tried a dopamine agonist? Sometimes they can help with that.

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    Quote Originally Posted by lilbigjuicy View Post
    I have the Ativan for in case of emergency. I have a panic disorder, this is not not a "severe" mental disorder. SSRI regulate mood by regulating serotonin neurotransmitters in the brain. Plenty of people on this forum are on cycles using ssris with no issues. That's why I'm asking if anyone has dealt with this, clearly you haven't so I'm not sure why you're commenting.
    Ativan is like using a nuke for a panic attack when you could be using a hand grenade. I get panic attacks too and use a beta-blocker, inderol to stop the physical symptoms of anxiety in its tracks.

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    Quote Originally Posted by bizzarro View Post
    Perhaps they are, have you ever tried a dopamine agonist? Sometimes they can help with that.
    . My doctor has me titrating with Pramipexole right now, started at .125 two weeks later .25, now I'm at .375 it has helped the libido slightly.

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