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    Test Sust question

    My question is, which is more perfered for sust 250. 1ml every 3 days or 1 ml every other day?

    Also if I do 1ml every 3 days how much mg of test is that a week?
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    More prefered is up to the user. Sus is fine to take twice a week. But because of the short ester i like eod.

    250mg twice a week is 500mg

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    Quote Originally Posted by Euroholic View Post
    More prefered is up to the user. Sus is fine to take twice a week. But because of the short ester i like eod.

    250mg twice a week is 500mg
    for how long and how long will need waiting for ester clearing after last injection and before pct ?

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    Quote Originally Posted by devil-1986 View Post
    for how long and how long will need waiting for ester clearing after last injection and before pct ?
    Ester Half-life

    formate 1.5 days
    acetate 3 days
    propionate 4.5 days
    phenylprop 4.5 days
    butyrate 6 days
    Valerate 7.5 days
    Hexanoate 10.5 days
    caproate 9 days
    isocaproate 9 days
    heptonoate 10.5 days
    enathate 10.5 days
    octanoate 12 days
    cypionate 12 days
    Nonanoate 13.5 days
    decanoate 15 days
    Undecanoate 16.5 days

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    Quote Originally Posted by Phenoxs View Post
    My question is, which is more perfered for sust 250. 1ml every 3 days or 1 ml every other day?
    Thats up to you. Most prefer 2Xs/wk injections but you have to plan according to your cycle.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Phenoxs View Post
    Also if I do 1ml every 3 days how much mg of test is that a week?
    E3D injections would vary...1st wk would be 750mg...2nd 500mg...3rd...500mg...and then the cycle would start over again with 750mg.

    It avg out to between 580-585mg/wk.

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    Quote Originally Posted by 01dragonslayer View Post
    E3D injections would vary...1st wk would be 750mg...2nd 500mg...3rd...500mg...and then the cycle would start over again with 750mg.

    It avg out to between 580-585mg/wk.
    Ok when you say 2x a week you're saying 1ml on Monday and 1ml on Thursday? Would that average out to 500mg a week?

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    Also read that the first week doesn't really count because only the test prop and phenylprop are the only ones released into the body. Which is roughly 160-180mgs the first week. Not sure how correct this is, just a page I seen on cycling with test sust

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    Quote Originally Posted by Phenoxs View Post
    Ok when you say 2x a week you're saying 1ml on Monday and 1ml on Thursday? Would that average out to 500mg a week?
    Correct.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Phenoxs View Post
    Also read that the first week doesn't really count because only the test prop and phenylprop are the only ones released into the body. Which is roughly 160-180mgs the first week. Not sure how correct this is, just a page I seen on cycling with test sust
    'Doesn't really count'?....not quite sure what your referring to when you say that. Do you understand what esters are?

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    Quote Originally Posted by 01dragonslayer View Post
    'Doesn't really count'?....not quite sure what your referring to when you say that. Do you understand what esters are?
    Yes I understand what esters are, they are whats bind to test which release the test at different times. Which in sust it has 4 different esters and the long esters release 2 weeks after the first pin. And only the short 30mg and 60mg esters are actually in your body after a couple of day of the pin. Which means a rough est of 160-180 depending on how many pins you do that first week. Maybe that cleared up what I've read.

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    So to answer your original question you can refer to my earlier post on when the ester(s) half-life will expire to start your PCT. Keep in mind that not all sustanons are the same. Know what esters are in yours.

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    Quote Originally Posted by 01dragonslayer View Post
    So to answer your original question you can refer to my earlier post on when the ester(s) half-life will expire to start your PCT. Keep in mind that not all sustanons are the same. Know what esters are in yours.
    Ok, thanks for the help. Still a little confused on how many mg of test is actually in a body when doing different pin times from 2x times a week or every 3 days. Thats what im actually wanting to know. And which is more preferred with best results.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Phenoxs View Post
    Ok, thanks for the help. Still a little confused on how many mg of test is actually in a body when doing different pin times from 2x times a week or every 3 days. Thats what im actually wanting to know. And which is more preferred with best results.
    Milligrams below are the estimated amount of active hormone per 100mg of hormone and ester.

    Testosterone Base: 100mg
    Testosterone Acetate: 83mg
    Testosterone Propionate : 80mg
    Testosterone Isocaproate: 72mg
    Testosterone Enanthate : 70mg
    Testosterone Cypionate : 69mg
    Testosterone Phenylpropionate: 66mg
    Testosterone Decanoate: 62mg
    Testosterone Undecanoate: 61mg

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    Quote Originally Posted by 01dragonslayer View Post
    Milligrams below are the estimated amount of active hormone per 100mg of hormone and ester.

    Testosterone Base: 100mg
    Testosterone Acetate: 83mg
    Testosterone Propionate : 80mg
    Testosterone Isocaproate: 72mg
    Testosterone Enanthate : 70mg
    Testosterone Cypionate : 69mg
    Testosterone Phenylpropionate: 66mg
    Testosterone Decanoate: 62mg
    Testosterone Undecanoate: 61mg
    Again thanks for the information, but not sure if its really clarifying my question...

    1) How much test wkly if you pin every Monday 1ml and Thursday 1ml ? I think the answer to this is 500mg/wkly but still not sure about the first couple of week because only short esters be in your body till the long esters enter.

    2) How much test is it wkly if you were to pin every 3 days?

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    It depends what esters are in your sust. Generally speaking most Sustanon is a composition of 30mg/ test prop, 60mmg/tpp, 100mgmg/test iso, and 100mg/test deca . But like I previously mention not all are the same.

    Is your Sustanon pharm grade?

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    Quote Originally Posted by 01dragonslayer View Post
    It depends what esters are in your sust. Generally speaking most Sustanon is a composition of 30mg/ test prop, 60mmg/tpp, 100mgmg/test iso, and 100mg/test deca . But like I previously mention not all are the same.

    Is your Sustanon pharm grade?
    The sustanon 250 mg I have has 4 esters 30mg test propionate , 60mg phenyl propionate 60mg test isocaproate and 100mg test deconate one fast two medium and one long ester.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Phenoxs View Post
    The sustanon 250 mg I have has 4 esters 30mg test propionate, 60mg phenyl propionate 60mg test isocaproate and 100mg test deconate one fast two medium and one long ester.
    With that now known you can figure out how much active test is in your body prior to starting your PCT.

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    Quote Originally Posted by 01dragonslayer View Post
    With that now known you can figure out how much active test is in your body prior to starting your PCT.
    then is two weeks should be enough ?

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    Quote Originally Posted by devil-1986 View Post
    then is two weeks should be enough ?
    Steroid esters Drug Active half-life

    Formate 1.5 days
    Acetate 3 days
    Propionate 2 days
    Phenylpropionate 4.5 days
    Butyrate 6 days
    Valerate 7.5 days
    Hexanoate 9 days
    Caproate 9 days
    Isocaproate 9 days
    Heptanoate 10.5 days
    Enanthate 10.5 days
    Octanoate 12 days
    Cypionate 12 days
    Nonanoate 13.5 days
    Decanoate 15 days
    Undecanoate 16.5 days

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    i roughly estimated that the first week with 2 pins, it will only release 120mg of test into a body.

    Now after the longer esters release it gets cloudy for me to estimate the amount of test being released due to the short esters being mixed in with the longer esters that were injected in previous weeks...

    This is why i asked if anyone has done the math so i can know what the difference between 2 pins a week vs every 3 day pins...

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    Phenoxs......do a Google search for "steroid calculator". I'm pretty sure you can find what you're looking for.
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    Quote Originally Posted by 600@50 View Post
    Phenoxs......do a Google search for "steroid calculator". I'm pretty sure you can find what you're looking for.
    Well this should make it easier to calculate, thanks 600@50

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    There's different ones out there. Make sure you get the version that calculates blood levels over time.

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