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    Test E Question

    I've ran a total of 3 cycles all with cyp being my base. Decided to go with E instead. Also decided to try a different lab.
    Frontloaded 1G the first week & Friday marks 2nd week end, start of 3rd. I've never frontloaded with test, always ran an oral for first 4 weeks to kickstart. My normal test is on the low side of normal(around 400). So I feel like I should've at least gotten an increase in libido being that I'm fairly low with natty test levels. Perhaps I'm expecting too much from the frontload being I've never done it this way(test frontload). Thought about getting a blood test next week to see if levels are elevated at all. What say you? Obviously I'm somewhat doubting my choice in lab but I'm also not expecting miracles.

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    Front loading a gram not a smart thing but if you wanted it too kick in sooner you should've used prop.Ft loading is a waste IMOP.
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    I have a buddy more experienced than I suggest it. Did some research and it's not that uncommon. I agree prop is the better option though. Thoughts on my original post aside from the front loading

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    Everyone has a friend that gives advice and that's how guys end up messing up their bodies.But guys yrs ago use too do that crap it's wat we call old school.

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    Quote Originally Posted by songdog View Post
    Everyone has a friend that gives advice and that's how guys end up messing up their bodies.But guys yrs ago use too do that crap it's wat we call old school.
    Yeah songdog I fall into the old school category and you're right that's the way it was done years ago. Everyone thought that by front loading you get more into your system sooner. And to a certain degree you do but hardly anyone front loads anymore. It's not needed and has little benefit. But I really don't mind being old school. Some things that worked years ago still work today. And some things have been refined to work better.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Kobe27 View Post
    I've ran a total of 3 cycles all with cyp being my base. Decided to go with E instead. Also decided to try a different lab.
    Frontloaded 1G the first week & Friday marks 2nd week end, start of 3rd. I've never frontloaded with test, always ran an oral for first 4 weeks to kickstart. My normal test is on the low side of normal(around 400). So I feel like I should've at least gotten an increase in libido being that I'm fairly low with natty test levels. Perhaps I'm expecting too much from the frontload being I've never done it this way(test frontload). Thought about getting a blood test next week to see if levels are elevated at all. What say you? Obviously I'm somewhat doubting my choice in lab but I'm also not expecting miracles.
    Welcome to the forum. You don't mention what ester you're front load with. I'm assuming the Enth. You want to front load with a quick acting ester like Prop or Acetate. No matter if you shoot 10g's the first day, the ester's long so it'll still take a few weeks for the ester to release all that Test. Then you have a case where your blood concentration's super high. You front load with a short ester so the Test can get into your system in a few days. If you're already into your cycle, just stick with the weekly dose and even out your blood concentration level as much as possible.

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    I've frontloaded with prop once, didn't this cycle, no explanation why really. A lot of emphasis is being placed on the frontload, which is ok with me. My concern is that with relatively low natty test, with or without the frontload, I'd expect a boost in libido within the first week or 10 days. I don't think that's unreasonable. I know E has a long ester but test levels should be raised a little after 48/72 hours of first pin. I'm at the 2 week mark.

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    I can't speak to the frontloading as I've never done it. However, not feeling the effects of test e after 14 days is not uncommon. That's usually around the time I would start to notice. In the third week. If you think your gear is bad only a blood test will confirm. Even for a blood test I would wait another two weeks.

    Also, you can't really use libido as a gauge. Many things go into libido. It isn't as simple as "how much test do I have in my system?"

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    Quote Originally Posted by Deal Me In View Post
    Also, you can't really use libido as a gauge. Many things go into libido. It isn't as simple as "how much test do I have in my system?"

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    Quote Originally Posted by Kobe27 View Post
    I've frontloaded with prop once, didn't this cycle, no explanation why really. A lot of emphasis is being placed on the frontload, which is ok with me. My concern is that with relatively low natty test, with or without the frontload, I'd expect a boost in libido within the first week or 10 days. I don't think that's unreasonable. I know E has a long ester but test levels should be raised a little after 48/72 hours of first pin. I'm at the 2 week mark.
    Gotcha, I don't front load at all anymore. I just run a normal Cyp only cycle and still get good results. I don't get much of a libido boost anymore. Maybe my unit decided to go on an extended vacation or I'm just an old fart. LOL

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    Quote Originally Posted by Kobe27 View Post
    I've ran a total of 3 cycles all with cyp being my base. Decided to go with E instead. Also decided to try a different lab.
    Frontloaded 1G the first week & Friday marks 2nd week end, start of 3rd. I've never frontloaded with test, always ran an oral for first 4 weeks to kickstart. My normal test is on the low side of normal(around 400). So I feel like I should've at least gotten an increase in libido being that I'm fairly low with natty test levels. Perhaps I'm expecting too much from the frontload being I've never done it this way(test frontload). Thought about getting a blood test next week to see if levels are elevated at all. What say you? Obviously I'm somewhat doubting my choice in lab but I'm also not expecting miracles.

    Only being your 3rd week into your cycle your blood levels most likely have not peaked yet and in some cases with the enth ester may not peak until your 5th week so IMO I would hold off on the blood test for now due to a possible inaccurate reading.

    I agree with much of the above and you would have been better off using a short acting ester to 'jump start' your cycle. Just wondering if the orals have worked in the past why skimp out this time?

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