Getting to know you guys (favorite compounds)

**PT1982** · 03-12-2017, 03:58 PM

Originally Posted by GirlyGymRat

I ran oral but would have been more cost effective to run inj.

My next cycle could be masteron or proviron with winny. I need to get training up to speed and drop some bf first.

What have you tried up to this point GGR? Have you ever used NPP?

**GirlyGymRat** · 03-12-2017, 06:47 PM

Originally Posted by PT1982

What have you tried up to this point GGR? Have you ever used NPP?

No I haven't. I get poo poo when I've brought up in the past. Many members say there are better compounds for women. I know many women who have stake NPP with great results.

I ran t3 with clen and I hate clen.

Hgh for 9 glorious months at varied dosages as high as 6 and as low as 2. 6 was too high. Lots of wrist issues. I love the anti aging properties along. Skin, mental sharpness and clarity, libido, sleep. Omg it's divine!

Var only. It was dbol . Awful water retention.

Real var. my body didn't respond. I was disappointed.

Phen with primo/var Real phen is amazing. Curbs hunger on primo. Ran this cycle a little too high and long. Some hair loss (it returned) and some new hair growth (more laser hair removal expenses. Lol )

I have to finish var and might give it a try again. If no results, I'll pass and more up to mast and whinny.

I'm not competing. I just like the natural endorphins, good stats including heart rate, blood pressure and endurance. I want to look like I care about myself. Some of my high school and undergraduate peeps look so much older bc they haven't prioritized health. To each their own.

**PT1982** · 03-12-2017, 07:53 PM

Originally Posted by GirlyGymRat

No I haven't. I get poo poo when I've brought up in the past. Many members say there are better compounds for women. I know many women who have stake NPP with great results.

I ran t3 with clen and I hate clen.

Hgh for 9 glorious months at varied dosages as high as 6 and as low as 2. 6 was too high. Lots of wrist issues. I love the anti aging properties along. Skin, mental sharpness and clarity, libido, sleep. Omg it's divine!

Var only. It was dbol . Awful water retention.

Real var. my body didn't respond. I was disappointed.

Phen with primo/var Real phen is amazing. Curbs hunger on primo. Ran this cycle a little too high and long. Some hair loss (it returned) and some new hair growth (more laser hair removal expenses. Lol )

I have to finish var and might give it a try again. If no results, I'll pass and more up to mast and whinny.

I'm not competing. I just like the natural endorphins, good stats including heart rate, blood pressure and endurance. I want to look like I care about myself. Some of my high school and undergraduate peeps look so much older bc they haven't prioritized health. To each their own.

This is extremely cool! I sort of specialize in women and this is very helpful to me. A little var story... if my wife takes it, she blows up with water retention. It seems that some women get similar effects on anavar that men get with dbol. I've done extensive research as to this cause and can't come to a conclusion. Hopefully someone like Bonaparte can explain. While it's not common, it does happen. For her, NPP yields incredible results. It's almost spooky how effective it is. She takes 25mgs on Mondays/Thursdays and starts leaning up within 10 days. And as cheap as it is for women to use these compounds, NPP is practically free for her, lol. She also likes winny, but it causes virilization, hair loss, and deep voice in a short time, so she don't use it anymore. But with the NPP she takes it subQ and has no side effects. I don't care for women doing masteron . I hope that if you do it that you will log it. I have a friend acting as a guinea pig right now. She plans to get back to competing next year, so we're using this year to pay around with her diet, training, AAS, and setting goals. We've got her on Tren A. I will report on it if anyone wants to know how that goes. She just started and we're keeping it low. 5mgs M/W/F. I've never done this with a female, but she was willing to push boundaries to get back on stage. I figure if she gets uncomfortable sides, we can just drop it. I am pretty excited about this test though! Lol. I'm not going to lie.

**kelkel** · 03-12-2017, 08:57 PM

Originally Posted by GirlyGymRat

Lots of wrist issues. .

Now you know how men feel.....

**Mr.BB** · 03-12-2017, 09:06 PM

Originally Posted by kelkel

Now you know how I feel.....

Fixed it ^^^^^

**hammerheart** · 03-13-2017, 08:04 AM

Originally Posted by MuscleScience

Admittedly my body seems to react different to varies compounds as I does to others here. I run T even in super low dosages, I have bad estrogenic side effects even if I run an AI or Serm. My body seems accustomed to operate on lower T. I can run Deca for a year at 4-600mg and not have deca dick and I recover fully after 4-6 weeks of being off. I do get testicular shrinkage but I am fine with that. My nuts are already big and are prone to me sitting on them and
Stuff.

But you do not get of those "estrogenic" sides with deca right? Do you run AI with that dosage? Don't you never develop high prolactin or milky nipples issues (I already have those) ?

**01dragonslayer** · 03-13-2017, 09:39 AM

Originally Posted by bizzarro

But you do not get of those "estrogenic" sides with deca right? Do you run AI with that dosage? Don't you never develop high prolactin or milky nipples issues (I already have those) ?

I think you mean prolactin induced gynecomastia ? While the 19-nors are indeed progestins and do increase progesterone, it's the prolactin that follows suit that is known for the negative side effects.

The best advice here is to prevent it before it occurs, but many do use high doses of letrozole and a dopamine agonist such as caber/prami/bromo.

**hammerheart** · 03-13-2017, 09:59 AM

Originally Posted by 01dragonslayer

I think you mean prolactin induced gynecomastia ? While the 19-nors are indeed progestins and do increase progesterone, it's the prolactin that follows suit that is known for the negative side effects.

The best advice here is to prevent it before it occurs, but many do use high doses of letrozole and a dopamine agonist such as caber/prami/bromo.

I didn't mean gyno just lactation (even clear, not milky). I have both high prolactin and nipple leakage but the latter was already present before the former developed. It was present even on caber lol.

It is my understanding 19-nors mimick progesterone. The synergic action of P4 (prog) and E2 can increase prolactin release by direcy action pituitary lactothrophe cells and centrally by manipulating serotonin receptors, resulting in decreased DA infusion from the hypothalamus.

I was thus wondering if eventual prolactin increase from 19-nors can be prevented to some extent if E2 is kept very low or undetectable, especially in the case Test isn't used as base.