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    My bloods precycle

    This i my bloodtest, sorry that it is in Swedish, couldnt get it in english, if there is something u dont understand just let me know and ill answer quick. Just a few words before we start. "Järn" is Iron. Let me know how my results are pre cycle!


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    Congratulations, you got hypothyroidism.

    What is your iodine intake? Do you eat any fish, seafood, use iodized salt?

    You need to get your thyroid checked by and endo, and very likely hormone replacement (levothyroxine).

    Also test for hashimoto's antibodies - AbTPO, AbTG.


    I would advise to fix thyroid first before cycling. Your body isn't functioning normally.

    It is a wonder to me how your RBC and hemoglobin are already on the high side despite poor Iron and B12 status.

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    Quote Originally Posted by bizzarro View Post
    Congratulations, you got hypothyroidism.

    What is your iodine intake? Do you eat any fish, seafood, use iodized salt?

    You need to get your thyroid checked by and endo, and very likely hormone replacement (levothyroxine).

    Also test for hashimoto's antibodies - AbTPO, AbTG.


    I would advise to fix thyroid first before cycling. Your body isn't functioning normally.

    It is a wonder to me how your RBC and hemoglobin are already on the high side despite poor Iron and B12 status.
    What the fck.... iodine intake is low. Hormone replacement?? Wtf, the "proffessional doctor" told me that i was almost fine, tf

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    My bloods precycle

    The ones marked in red are the fcked ones

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    Quote Originally Posted by Alosh81 View Post
    What the fck.... iodine intake is low. Hormone replacement?? Wtf, the "proffessional doctor" told me that i was almost fine, tf
    Your TSH is 11 and that means overt (not even mild or sub-clinical) hypothyroidism.

    I supposed healthcare was top notch in Sweden?

    Get a referral to and endocrinologist. General practitioners aren't usually knowledgeable about hormone.
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    Quote Originally Posted by bizzarro View Post
    Your TSH is 11 and that means overt (not even mild or sub-clinical) hypothyroidism.

    I supposed healthcare was top notch in Sweden?

    Get a referral to and endocrinologist. General practitioners aren't usually knowledgeable about hormone.
    Yeah I see... shit!

    Does this mean high risk for diabetes ?

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    My bloods precycle

    As stupid as iam, i did adex 1mg ed and nolva 20mg ed for a week before the tests, so fckn stupid. I also just finished antibiotics for chlamydia. Could all this affect these results?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Alosh81 View Post
    As stupid as iam, i did adex 1mg ed and nolva 20mg ed for a week before the tests, so fckn stupid. I also just finished antibiotics for chlamydia. Could all this affect these results?
    AI and SERMs can indeed influence thyroid but they might account for minor changes, not a TSH of 11. That's pathological.

    That however means your natural T could be lower than measured.

    1mg adex ED is an hefty dose even on cycle. That's the dosage for breast cancer. Don't do this again, it will crush your E2, which is no good.

    Antibiotics.... no interaction I know of. Have safer sex pls.

    I'm hypothyroid myself and on 125mcg LT4.

    Be sure to get a thyroid ultrasound, you need to look for nodules.

    How much low is your iodine intake? Do you take any multivitamin/multimineral? There is iodine in milk and derivatives, also.

    If you don't eat any fish make sure you get enough omega3 from fish oil.

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    Quote Originally Posted by bizzarro View Post
    AI and SERMs can indeed influence thyroid but they might account for minor changes, not a TSH of 11. That's pathological.

    That however means your natural T could be lower than measured.

    1mg adex ED is an hefty dose even on cycle. That's the dosage for breast cancer. Don't do this again, it will crush your E2, which is no good.

    Antibiotics.... no interaction I know of. Have safer sex pls.

    I'm hypothyroid myself and on 125mcg LT4.

    Be sure to get a thyroid ultrasound, you need to look for nodules.

    How much low is your iodine intake? Do you take any multivitamin/multimineral? There is iodine in milk and derivatives, also.

    If you don't eat any fish make sure you get enough omega3 from fish oil.
    Yeah... yeah i know it is a big dose. But it works for me, its my sweetspot. Ye ye i will have safer sex, what can u do when shes blonde, tall n has blue eyes...

    I do take a lot of fishoil and multis yes, do u need exact amount?

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    My bloods precycle

    Is this something to fix asap? Like can it affect me heavily?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Alosh81 View Post
    Yeah... yeah i know it is a big dose. But it works for me, its my sweetspot. Ye ye i will have safer sex, what can u do when shes blonde, tall n has blue eyes...

    I do take a lot of fishoil and multis yes, do u need exact amount?
    I don't like nordic gals, they look like alien to me, sorry

    Well what I meant is iodine is usually present in multis. In that case, iodine intake isn't the problem with your thyroid.

    Again, get an endo.

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    Allright, i will get an endo. What could be the causes of this thyroid sht?


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    Quote Originally Posted by Alosh81 View Post
    Is this something to fix asap? Like can it affect me heavily?
    The sooner the better, yes, but it's not life threatening, so to speak.

    If you don't have any symptom then it's not hindering your functioning significantly, but it's usually progressive.

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    Quote Originally Posted by bizzarro View Post
    The sooner the better, yes, but it's not life threatening, so to speak.

    If you don't have any symptom then it's not hindering your functioning significantly, but it's usually progressive.
    Okay, so now to use my bodybuilder brain;

    I I get my thyroid function good again, are there any possibilities that my testosterone will raise a bit?

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    And also, will the doctor ask for steroid usage? In sweden, the laws are fucked against steroid usage


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    Quote Originally Posted by Alosh81 View Post
    Allright, i will get an endo. What could be the causes of this thyroid sht?


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    Autoimmune disease (hashimoto thyroiditis) is the most common condition. That means the immune system is attacking the thyroid via antibodies (you can test for these, see above). No one truly knows why this happens.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Alosh81 View Post
    And also, will the doctor ask for steroid usage? In sweden, the laws are fucked against steroid usage


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    Nah he won't. AAS has nothing to do with this, but he might ask why you pulled your T levels....

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    Quote Originally Posted by bizzarro View Post
    Nah he won't. AAS has nothing to do with this, but he might ask why you pulled your T levels....
    Wht u mean "pulled your t levels"?

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    Yes, thyroid problems can really have a strong effect on how you live your life.

    Instead of being here go to the doctor, like Biz said, TSH of 11 is a very simple diagnostic. You need further exams, and to be advised by a thyroid doctor specialist.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Alosh81 View Post
    Wht u mean "pulled your t levels"?
    Tested for Testosterone .

    To answer whether your thyroid can impact your T levels yes hypothyroidism can lower testosterone.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Alosh81 View Post
    Yeah... yeah i know it is a big dose. But it works for me, its my sweetspot. Ye ye i will have safer sex, what can u do when shes blonde, tall n has blue eyes...

    I do take a lot of fishoil and multis yes, do u need exact amount?
    Bro I have been to Sweden. They are all tall, with blonde hair and blue eyes lol.

    It's not a stereotype, swedish girls are really fucking hot. I got to visit Gothenburg when I was younger.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Truthwalker View Post
    Bro I have been to Sweden. They are all tall, with blonde hair and blue eyes lol.

    It's not a stereotype, swedish girls are really fucking hot. I got to visit Gothenburg when I was younger.

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    Hahah Stockholm has better chicks, im almost 2m tall, 220pounds and model look kinda, also confident af, i rarely get denied hahahahha
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    Quote Originally Posted by bizzarro View Post
    Your TSH is 11 and that means overt (not even mild or sub-clinical) hypothyroidism.

    I supposed healthcare was top notch in Sweden?

    Get a referral to and endocrinologist. General practitioners aren't usually knowledgeable about hormone.
    I never seen TSH that high I thought it was a typo at first...

    Agree with Bizz... get looked at by an endo(A4M1 certified) or a Urologist... most ref docs do not know hormones!

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    Do some reading here:

    stopthethyroidmadness dot com

    On the bright side, your Vit D level is super!
    -*- NO SOURCE CHECKS -*-

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    Quote Originally Posted by kelkel View Post
    Do some reading here:

    stopthethyroidmadness dot com

    On the bright side, your Vit D level is super!
    8000iu vita d a day does the job.

    My fckn b12 is fcked tho...

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    Quote Originally Posted by Alosh81 View Post
    8000iu vita d a day does the job.

    My fckn b12 is fcked tho...
    The ranges reported by your lab look rather skewed.

    However, though your serum B12 is lowish, looking at homocysteine, which is a marker of functional B12 deficiency, it looks great, that means the body is making good use of the cobalamin present though stores seems to be running low.

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    Quote Originally Posted by bizzarro View Post
    The ranges reported by your lab look rather skewed.

    However, though your serum B12 is lowish, looking at homocysteine, which is a marker of functional B12 deficiency, it looks great, that means the body is making good use of the cobalamin present though stores seems to be running low.
    Allright, should i fix anything else beside the thyroid issue?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Alosh81 View Post
    Allright, should i fix anything else beside the thyroid issue?
    Nope I do advise you keep supplementing with D3, fish oil and multis we ppl with hypothyroidism need those.

    Get your cobalamin checked again in a few months, if it lowers further get on B12 injections.

    Before cycling know also that you will need to donate soon in the process as your counts appear to be already high, don't skip mid-cycle bloods.

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    My bloods precycle

    Yes sir, im a part of "us" now. Yeah i alrdy have heart issues running in the family, so ill donate and get bloods done also. Ty for te input m8, and fyi doctor i booked

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    Very well. I hope new doc won't dismiss your case.

    Thyroid disorders can play a major role in CV disease, that is usually from multiple factors, the more you got under control the better.

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