Test / Tren Cycle

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03-19-2017, 07:13 PM
sandaddiction

Test / Tren Cycle

I am starting to prepare for my next Test / Tren cycle. This will be my first time running Tren. I've done 5 Test cycles, some with the addition of Winstrol or Anavar.

Stats:
Age 28
Weight 190
BF 15%

Training - 5 Days / Week (Upper/Lower/Push/Pull/Legs)

Cycle
Test C - 250mg every 4 days (437.5 / week) - Weeks 1-10
Tren E - 250mg every 4 days (437.5 / week) - Weeks 3-10
Caber - .25 every 3 days - Weeks 3-8
Arimidix - .25 every other day - Week 1-10
HCG - 250is every three days - Week 1-10

PCT
Clomid - 75/50/50/50
Nolva - 40/20/20/20

Diet - 3,300 calories (45% carbs / 35% protein / 20% fat)

Please critique this cycle and provide feedback. Is there anything I should add or modify? What are the long term disadvantages to doing Tren vs sticking with Test only?

Thank you
03-19-2017, 07:39 PM
PT1982

Looks good to me and researched. Why not run the tren the same duration as the test though?
03-19-2017, 07:54 PM
Mr.BB

Start tren week 1, but finish it before test.

HCG and AI needs to be run up to PCT, but seems high AI dosage, did you do bw mid cycle previously?

Wouldn't run caber unless sides/bw
03-19-2017, 08:45 PM
sandaddiction

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mr.BB

Start tren week 1, but finish it before test.

HCG and AI needs to be run up to PCT, but seems high AI dosage, did you do bw mid cycle previously?

Wouldn't run caber unless sides/bw

Thanks for the feedback. I'll run both up to PCT.
03-19-2017, 08:47 PM
sandaddiction

Quote:

Originally Posted by sandaddiction

Thanks for the feedback. I'll run both up to PCT.

Just noticed that I put .5 instead of .25 for the AI.

This will be my first cycle using blood work. In the past I was unexpericed with the proper safety methods.

If I start to show Gyno symptons, how soon will Caber work?
03-19-2017, 08:59 PM
-Nac-

Id prefer ace myself but if youve already bought e...
03-19-2017, 10:01 PM
sandaddiction

Quote:

Originally Posted by -Nac-

Id prefer ace myself but if youve already bought e...

Unfortunately I was only able to get E.
03-19-2017, 11:45 PM
-Nac-

Quote:

Originally Posted by sandaddiction

Unfortunately I was only able to get E.

Just be vigilant, without crossing the line into paranoia. Ive found that sides can sneak up on you with tren e, much moreso than ace.
03-19-2017, 11:59 PM
sandaddiction

Good to know. Thanks. Should I ditch the E until I can find Ace? If not, should I start with a lower dose?
03-20-2017, 12:17 AM
-Nac-

All I can tell you, is based on my own experience and what Ive seen in others.

I think ace is the best choice, and the easiest. I feel most confident with ace. Ramping/titrating your dose is significantly easier. Chasing your tail and overshooting sweetspots is reduced.

But...lots of guys have successful, troublefree runs with e. First cycle with tren, impossible to predict where youll fall on the spectrum.
03-20-2017, 02:00 AM
Back In Black

300mg per week on a first tren run is plenty.id extend your test by 2 weeks and start your tren at week 1.

Extend your nolva by 2 weeks at 20/20.

I'd much prefer tren ace too.
03-20-2017, 10:37 AM
bethdoth

I have run 2 tren Ace/test cyp cycles. I got amazing results from just 50mg tren A EOD and 200mg test cyp. Good diet plan and workout you would be amazed!
03-20-2017, 08:26 PM
sandaddiction

Quote:

Originally Posted by Back In Black

300mg per week on a first tren run is plenty.id extend your test by 2 weeks and start your tren at week 1.

Extend your nolva by 2 weeks at 20/20.

I'd much prefer tren ace too.

Just to clarify, are you recommending 10 weeks Tren and 12 weeks Test?

At 300mg/week, should I split the doses or just one shot?
03-20-2017, 09:27 PM
redz

Yes run the test out a few weeks longer than Tren. I love Tren E.
03-21-2017, 01:51 AM
Back In Black

Quote:

Originally Posted by sandaddiction

Just to clarify, are you recommending 10 weeks Tren and 12 weeks Test?

At 300mg/week, should I split the doses or just one shot?

Those periods are correct.

Yes, split the dose.
03-21-2017, 04:51 AM
tice1212

Quote:

Originally Posted by sandaddiction

Just to clarify, are you recommending 10 weeks Tren and 12 weeks Test?

At 300mg/week, should I split the doses or just one shot?

If ur asking this question u should NOT be touching either of these compounds.
03-31-2017, 05:52 PM
sandaddiction

Quote:

Originally Posted by Back In Black

Those periods are correct.

Yes, split the dose.

I've decided to rethink my cycle and purchases to include Tren Ace instead of Tren E. Doing so, what would the "ideal Test Tren" cycle be now that I will be making some new purchases. Also, how would it be to use the Pharmacom Mix 2?

Thanks
03-31-2017, 08:07 PM
redz

What's in the mix test p and tren ace?
03-31-2017, 09:02 PM
sandaddiction

Quote:

Originally Posted by redz

What's in the mix test p and tren ace?

Trenbolone Acetate 75 mg/ml
Drostanolone Propionate 100 mg/ml
Testosterone Phenylpropionate 75 mg/ml
04-01-2017, 01:16 AM
Back In Black

Quote:

Originally Posted by sandaddiction

Trenbolone Acetate 75 mg/ml
Drostanolone Propionate 100 mg/ml
Testosterone Phenylpropionate 75 mg/ml

That's more than just test and tren. How would you extend your test longer than your tren? How would you make your test dose higher? I hate blends btw, lol.

There is no ideal test/tren cycle. Are you going to use tren ace but still use a long test ester or are you going to use prop?
04-01-2017, 06:04 AM
sandaddiction

Quote:

Originally Posted by Back In Black

That's more than just test and tren. How would you extend your test longer than your tren? How would you make your test dose higher? I hate blends btw, lol.

There is no ideal test/tren cycle. Are you going to use tren ace but still use a long test ester or are you going to use prop?

I would switch to Prop and use all short just to make life easier.