Power PCT question

[Fiskevatten]

I am currently on a power pct program as follows:
Day 1-16 : 2500iu HCG every other day.
Day 1-30 : Nolva 20mg/day; Clomid 100mg/day (50mg was taken twice per day)
Day 31-45 : Nolva 20mg/day

It's the 6th day today and so far I feel great!
It's like a small cycle - pumps, libido, weight gain, strength, skin, energy and mental state are all improved.
Got comments on this from people around as well.
No sides as of yet.

I haven't done any AAS in a long time, but based on the recent BW I had the choice was to either go on a
power pct and hope for the best, or TRT.
So I have my fingers crossed.
Huge thanks to some members here for there opinions on this matter, you know who you guys are you over-sized leprechauns! :P

I've kept reading on power PCT fr. Dr. Scally, and there seems to be a lot of different versions out there.
The newest one I've found, he(?) said to extend the HCG from 16 days to 20 days instead.
Even HCG range seem to vary with everything from 500 iu - 2500 iu with both e2d and e3d.
I don't want to cause any further damage.

- Should I keep with the above protocol? Or do I need to increase - decrease anything?

[sarveshkushwaha]

Experienced folks please reply, even m interested in this


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[DocToxin8]

I'm no expert on PCT as you know man,
but sure, if he says extend it to 20 days then why not?
As long as you feel great doing this then might as well.
If you felt hellish sides then I'd say different.

But 4 more days to let your balls grow and get some needed T circulating before your start relying on SERMs only shouldn't be an issue.
But the hcg will be supressive on the pituitary so then maybe you'd need 4 more days on SERMs as well.

Another way to look at it is;
You've found a program and perhaps just stick to it as is.

The hcg mega dosing is to make sure problems ain't with your balls (primary hypogonadism).
And since you feel great (you should do BW for T and E2 and all now to really see) it's probable you got your T levels up.

Then it remains to be seen whether your pituitary is up to the task of stimulating your balls enough.
While on SERMs T should be a little raised and LH and FSH values should be good, then it's a matter of seeing whether LH/FSH manages to stay good when off the SERMs.

[PT1982]

I would be curious about the estrogen levels on this protocol. So if you do get bloodwork done during this pct, please post. I'd like to see the results. As far as the protocol, I believe doc toxin has you covered. Nothing for me to add other than just curiosity on the bloodwork. Good luck to you on this and I hope it works out for you!

[DocToxin8]

The hcg megadosing should give high readings on both T and E2,
so I'd be interested in BW too.
You are supposed to take that before you end the hcg blast anyways,
to confirm that your sex hormones are indeed high, as this first hcg blast is to make sure your testicles are not the issue.
(Primary hypogonadism)

Then you switch over to just using SERMs,
which stimulate the pituitary.
This is when things become really intresting,
as bloodwork during this phase should show high LH and FSH values,
otherwise you have secondary hypogonadism which is much more likely.

Then it's a matter of keeping LH and FSH high one you quit the SERMs,
which determines whether this will work or not.

Hopefully the pituitary will keep on pushing out peptides to stimulate the testes,
and you will be golden and all is well.

But if that doesn't happen,
It does seem like, (we can only guess without bloods),
that hcg therapy would perhaps be enough as TRT for you.

That carries the advantage of not fucking your fertility in the same way T would.
It can be problematic due to E2, but that can be managed.
A friend of mine were issues hcg and arimidex as TRT by his endo since he want children. And his T levels were fine on that.
He's favorite compound is tren btw.

[DocToxin8]

The hcg megadosing should give high readings on both T and E2,
so I'd be interested in BW too.
You are supposed to take that before you end the hcg blast anyways,
to confirm that your sex hormones are indeed high, as this first hcg blast is to make sure your testicles are not the issue.
(Primary hypogonadism)

Then you switch over to just using SERMs,
which stimulate the pituitary.
This is when things become really intresting,
as bloodwork during this phase should show high LH and FSH values,
otherwise you have secondary hypogonadism which is much more likely.

Then it's a matter of keeping LH and FSH high one you quit the SERMs,
which determines whether this will work or not.

Hopefully the pituitary will keep on pushing out peptides to stimulate the testes,
and you will be golden and all is well.

But if that doesn't happen,
It does seem like, (we can only guess without bloods),
that hcg therapy would perhaps be enough as TRT for you.

That carries the advantage of not fucking your fertility in the same way T would.
It can be problematic due to E2, but that can be managed.
A friend of mine were issues hcg and arimidex as TRT by his endo since he want children. And his T levels were fine on that.
He's favorite compound is tren btw.

[Fiskevatten]

The hcg megadosing should give high readings on both T and E2,
so I'd be interested in BW too.
You are supposed to take that before you end the hcg blast anyways,
to confirm that your sex hormones are indeed high, as this first hcg blast is to make sure your testicles are not the issue.
(Primary hypogonadism)

Then you switch over to just using SERMs,
which stimulate the pituitary.
This is when things become really intresting,
as bloodwork during this phase should show high LH and FSH values,
otherwise you have secondary hypogonadism which is much more likely.

Then it's a matter of keeping LH and FSH high one you quit the SERMs,
which determines whether this will work or not.

Hopefully the pituitary will keep on pushing out peptides to stimulate the testes,
and you will be golden and all is well.

But if that doesn't happen,
It does seem like, (we can only guess without bloods),
that hcg therapy would perhaps be enough as TRT for you.

That carries the advantage of not fucking your fertility in the same way T would.
It can be problematic due to E2, but that can be managed.
A friend of mine were issues hcg and arimidex as TRT by his endo since he want children. And his T levels were fine on that.
He's favorite compound is tren btw.

Cheers guys!
Yeah, I will make sure to take BW at beg. of next week. Will post the results as soon as I get them.
I don't have my hopes up too much, I feel much better, but not as in my prime.
I also got another BP reading today, and I got the reading 151/77 2 hours after gym - not good...
Every BP reading this last 3 months have been high, I stopped all stimulants (red bulls+pwo) since that is the only place I'm unhealthy at atm.
Gotta check my cholesterol again asw.

HCG TRT would be great! Didn't know that was possible, since I want kids that would be a great option
if it's possible

Even the red acne scars are fading, at this rate I can to laser treatment which they denied before

[Fiskevatten]

Results back! This was from the day of the last shot of HCG , of the Power PCT program.
How does it look?

Feeling:
Growing every week now and getting stronger. More easily agitated for sure and the scars from back acne are more visible again.
Libido is great but feeling 50/ 50 horny
No water retention and the fat on lower stomach seems to start to disappear.
No other sides at all

[Fiskevatten]

bump

[Strongblood]

Looks like your Test is coming back with a vengeance! Congratulations Fisk!

[Fiskevatten]

Looks like your Test is coming back with a vengeance! Congratulations Fisk!

Thanks brother!
Just gotta hope it stays that way when I come off the Power PCT program

Is E2 a little high, or just right according to a Power PCT with no AAS?

[PT1982]

Test is looking great! E2, not so much. But I think that's you be expected with such high doses of hcg . Are you planning another test about 8 weeks from now to get where you are going to be at as far as your full recovery? The power pct looks to have done a nice job for you. With be looking to start a family after years of TRT, this might be an option for me to try out. It's refreshing to see someone post up results. Thanks for that!

[Fiskevatten]

That was my main concern about all this as well and why I go through it - to be able to start a family in future.
Yes, will go through the whole program, got 25 days left and will take BW 4 weeks after that as well as 8 weeks after (extra).
Will post em here so you guys can see.

Best is that I feel great while doing it, no sides that are noteworthy except 2 pimples and a little temper, that's it.
Positive sides like libido, growth and energy is much better.

All thanks to you guys and this board, so big shout out to you. Especially DocToxin that has give me loads of info.
Hopefully the journey will give positive results, otherwise I might be able to use HCG as TRT in worst case scenario

[Lemonada8]

ive never been a fan of the power pct HCG usage. Seems counterproductive to me. As for the clomid and nolva, def good use on those.

glad it worked for u!

[Hormon]

ive never been a fan of the power pct HCG usage. Seems counterproductive to me. As for the clomid and nolva, def good use on those.

glad it worked for u!

As for me, doses are huge. After 16 weeks on a cycle (TE 500 mg/wk, hCG 500 UI/wk, Arimidex 0,5 mg/wk) and 2 weeks of T washout I ran my PCT protocol for just 4 weeks: 10.000 UI of hCG, 18 mg of Arimidex and 1200 mg of Clomid were just enough. One week after the PCT my T was beyond (for about 4 nmol/l) the upper limit of the range, E2 was in the middle.

Power PCT should be great for guys after a long cycles.

[Bjorg89]

Fiskevatten

Hej man. Over With your power PCT? How did it worked for you? Considering about the same PCT for myself...

[iron.triangle]

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