Trouble with injections

**busster** · 08-22-2017, 07:37 AM

Anyone have any negative problem with injecting ? Or caused by injecting steroids ? Health concerns .infections etc

**DocToxin8** · 08-22-2017, 07:42 AM

No.
PIP once in a while. That's about the worst I've ever suffered from what must be 1000s of injects.

Oh, and feeling drunk for 60sec has happened to me a couple of times.

**guitarzan** · 08-22-2017, 07:45 AM

I've been infected before, but I'm pretty sure it was from not cleaning the top of the vial before drawing. This was in my younger days, I haven't had any issues in years

**Marcus G** · 08-22-2017, 11:24 AM

The only thing I've had aside from pip was a small haematoma, which cleared up within 24 hours. As long as your being sterile with how you prepare and administer. Everything should be OK.

**JdFlex** · 08-22-2017, 06:02 PM

I've had paralyzing post injection pain from UGL gear (almost always test). I'll say it again.....paralyzing....Now I'm on TRT with pharm grade test and once in a blue moon I'll get significant pain but nothing like the PIP from UGL. I ended up cutting the UGL injects with sterile oil and that alleviated the pain. Most importantly is do not rub the injection site afterwards, can hold a tissue on it to stop bleeding/etc but do no rub/massage. That can move the oil into the subcataneous tissue which has more nerve endings hence more pain. Not massaging leaves the oil in the muscle which is correct.

**guitarzan** · 08-22-2017, 06:14 PM

Originally Posted by JdFlex

I've had paralyzing post injection pain from UGL gear (almost always test). I'll say it again.....paralyzing....Now I'm on TRT with pharm grade test and once in a blue moon I'll get significant pain but nothing like the PIP from UGL. I ended up cutting the UGL injects with sterile oil and that alleviated the pain. Most importantly is do not rub the injection site afterwards, can hold a tissue on it to stop bleeding/etc but do no rub/massage. That can move the oil into the subcataneous tissue which has more nerve endings hence more pain. Not massaging leaves the oil in the muscle which is correct.

You probably don't get pip that much from pharm grade cause it's probably cypionate . I've never had trouble with cyp, even from ugl's. Now test e and prop is a different story

**Obs** · 08-22-2017, 06:24 PM

Test prop has left my calf drawn up for over a month. Prop and I were not meant for each other in small groups.
One big issue people overlook with prop or any injectable is they do not get deep enough and it gets in your fat causing lumps and pain. I pin 1.5" onlynow.

**songdog** · 08-22-2017, 09:23 PM

I had blood squirt out on my wifes new down comforter that wasn't cheap :/

**EDCG19** · 08-22-2017, 09:27 PM

My worst injection was walking around with a 23g needle in me and it was bouncing as I walked. Had a large bruise for weeks

**Obs** · 08-22-2017, 09:29 PM

Originally Posted by goalinmind

My worst injection was walking around with a 23g needle in me and it was bouncing as I walked. Had a large bruise for weeks

Tranq gun?

**busster** · 08-22-2017, 10:47 PM

Anyone dealt with cellulitis ?

**DocToxin8** · 08-23-2017, 02:35 AM

Originally Posted by guitarzan

You probably don't get pip that much from pharm grade cause it's probably cypionate. I've never had trouble with cyp, even from ugl's. Now test e and prop is a different story

Test e is smooth as ice, why would it be worse than cyp?

I don't get PIP from prop either, but I don't use prop dosed higher than 100mg/ml.

Stay away from high doses gear brewed with tons of BB and such shit.
Good gear should ideally contain just oil, AAS+ester, and maximum 2%BA (0,9% in most HG gear)
And it shouldn't be easy to get that oil through anything less than a 25g.

These are my opinions on the matter and they have served me well.

**guitarzan** · 08-23-2017, 06:28 AM

Originally Posted by DocToxin8

Test e is smooth as ice, why would it be worse than cyp?

I don't get PIP from prop either, but I don't use prop dosed higher than 100mg/ml.

Stay away from high doses gear brewed with tons of BB and such shit.
Good gear should ideally contain just oil, AAS+ester, and maximum 2%BA (0,9% in most HG gear)
And it shouldn't be easy to get that oil through anything less than a 25g.

These are my opinions on the matter and they have served me well.

I've had killer pip from test e before (ugl) and always get it from prop, even at 50 mg per ml (cut mix)

**JdFlex** · 08-23-2017, 06:50 AM

Originally Posted by songdog

I had blood squirt out on my wifes new down comforter that wasn't cheap :/

One time I had blood squirt several feet out of my left delt! That was freaky.

**JdFlex** · 08-23-2017, 06:51 AM

Originally Posted by Obspowerstroke

Test prop has left my calf drawn up for over a month. Prop and I were not meant for each other in small groups.
One big issue people overlook with prop or any injectable is they do not get deep enough and it gets in your fat causing lumps and pain. I pin 1.5" onlynow.

I'm fairly lean so I always assumed I didn't have to inject too deep b/c there's not much fat to go through, but that was my misunderstanding. The deeper the better.

**ghettoboyd** · 08-23-2017, 07:08 AM

Originally Posted by JdFlex

I'm fairly lean so I always assumed I didn't have to inject too deep b/c there's not much fat to go through, but that was my misunderstanding. The deeper the better.

you are fine using 1" if you are lean I have been doing it for years on all body parts including glutes...the only time I ever had a "gusher" where blood shot out after pulling out the pin was with a 1.5" needle in the glutes, since switching to 1" years ago it hasn't happened since...also 1.5 in the delts or thighs I wouldn't recommend but that's just my opinion...

**Octaneforce** · 08-24-2017, 04:27 PM

Been using A steady hand and pinning in the calf, quad, and shoulder with 5/8 by 25g needles and never had an issue. And barely ever get pip Even with prop. I think pip just depends on the person. Learning to keep steady and inject super slow made a huge difference for me. I dont know how some of you physcos blast in a 22g harpoon! Lol!

**Obs** · 08-24-2017, 04:34 PM

Originally Posted by JdFlex

I'm fairly lean so I always assumed I didn't have to inject too deep b/c there's not much fat to go through, but that was my misunderstanding. The deeper the better.

When you dont go deep enough you will know it. I always get hard areas of fat around the injection site. They are very painful to stick a needle through the next time around and you can feel the pad of hard fat with your fingers.

**PT1982** · 08-24-2017, 04:51 PM

Originally Posted by busster

Anyone dealt with cellulitis ?

Yes! Last Christmas I couldn't even get out of bed. And PIP happens sometimes. UGL or pharma, doesn't matter. What does matter is the concentration of hormone, carrier used, benzyl alcohol content (if high), pinning virgin muscle, and not rotating sites. Those are the typical reasons one would get PIP, among others I'm sure.

**PT1982** · 08-24-2017, 04:54 PM

Originally Posted by Octaneforce

Been using A steady hand and pinning in the calf, quad, and shoulder with 5/8 by 25g needles and never had an issue. And barely ever get pip Even with prop. I think pip just depends on the person. Learning to keep steady and inject super slow made a huge difference for me. I dont know how some of you physcos blast in a 22g harpoon! Lol!

Braver than I. Whew, those calves. I used a 27g a few times and they never got easier.

**Octaneforce** · 08-24-2017, 05:34 PM

Originally Posted by PT1982

Braver than I. Whew, those calves. I used a 27g a few times and they never got easier.

I must be lucky. Strangely enough i almost never pin glutes. It always gave me that breif woozy feeling.

**guitarzan** · 08-24-2017, 06:24 PM

Originally Posted by Octaneforce

Been using A steady hand and pinning in the calf, quad, and shoulder with 5/8 by 25g needles and never had an issue. And barely ever get pip Even with prop. I think pip just depends on the person. Learning to keep steady and inject super slow made a huge difference for me. I dont know how some of you physcos blast in a 22g harpoon! Lol!

I'm using 22ga 1 1/2" at the moment, glutes and quads. I have used 18ga before!

**Octaneforce** · 08-24-2017, 07:10 PM

Originally Posted by guitarzan

I'm using 22ga 1 1/2" at the moment, glutes and quads. I have used 18ga before!

God bless lmao

**Obs** · 08-24-2017, 07:40 PM

Originally Posted by guitarzan

I'm using 22ga 1 1/2" at the moment, glutes and quads. I have used 18ga before!

I feel your pain. When I started my first cycle I was dumb and didn't have access to proper utensils so I used the longest cattle needles I could find. The looked about like the IV at the blood bank. I would yell and jam them in my glute, inject, and then pull out and hold my finger over the hole so the medicine wouldn't squirt back out. Inever got an infection which was fortunate. I even cleaned and reused them. Glad I am past that point in my life.

**TRA** · 08-24-2017, 10:38 PM

Originally Posted by busster

Anyone dealt with cellulitis ?

Are you concerned you have an infection/cellulitis?

**austinite** · 08-24-2017, 10:41 PM

Check out this thread, it may answer several questions for you...

Injections: Tips, Tricks, Questions and Answers

**RoidRageNL** · 08-24-2017, 11:33 PM

My right ass cheek is a bit bruised or hardened from injecting 5+ years into the same spot. Obviously that was totally stupid and avoidable.

**PT1982** · 08-25-2017, 05:56 AM

Originally Posted by Octaneforce

I must be lucky. Strangely enough i almost never pin glutes. It always gave me that breif woozy feeling.

I never don't ever do glutes either. Delts and tris.

**guitarzan** · 08-25-2017, 07:13 AM

Glutes are the least painful for me. I very seldom feel anything, even with the 22's

**ghettoboyd** · 08-25-2017, 02:10 PM

Originally Posted by guitarzan

Glutes are the least painful for me. I very seldom feel anything, even with the 22's

I'm the same way, I actually have to look to see if it in sometimes, I hated glutes with the 1.5" pin but I have grown quite fond of them after switching to 1"...