Noob question - testosterone deconoate or deca durabolin

**Gl1001** · 08-24-2017, 03:09 AM

Hey guys,

hope someone can help me, I feel like such a moron.

I'm week 1 into my second cycle.

My first cycle was just straight test e.

Now I'm doing test e 500/week along with deca 500/week.

When purchasing the products, I saw "testosterone deconoate" and hit purchase. I recently returned after deciding to increase the length of my cycle and noticed that there is testosterone deconoate and deca durabolin .

I'm now worried that I've jumped the gun without clarifying whether deca refers to the first or the second.

If my fears are true and I should be combining test e with deca durabolin , what are the implications for a week's cycle of 500mg of test e and 500mg of test deca?

I appreciate any assistance

**Back In Black** · 08-24-2017, 03:59 AM

Are you sure your test is decanoate or are there a mixture of esters? Can you post a photo of it?

No need for deca on your second cycle btw. Especially of your test only first cycle was so good.

What ancillaries are you running?

Stats?

**DocToxin8** · 08-24-2017, 05:51 AM

If you've just used test decanoate for a week then no worries.
It's just slightly longer acting than enanthate .

I'm also wanting answers to what Back in Black asked.
Kinda important stuff.

**Gl1001** · 08-24-2017, 06:02 AM

Ok thanks.

So therefore next pin should I only do the test e at 500mg (250 twice a week) and keep the test deca on my shelf for another cycle?

I have armidex on hand but admittedly I haven’t started taking it yet. I plan to do .25mg EOD or maybe E3D. I didn’t really experience any symptoms last cycle so I have it ready but was going to wait until some of the symptoms kick in. Is this advisable?

I’ve been lifting recreationally for the last 5 or so years but I’m very new to this. What stats are you guys looking for?

**DocToxin8** · 08-24-2017, 06:25 AM

And you use hcg on cycle and have PCT lined up I hope.

Age, years of training, weight and such can all help.
But there's an easy recipe for it really;

If age < 25 yo (especially <20) then you'd better of with waiting to cycle.
If weight < what you should easily attain naturally with good training and diet then you don't need AAS yet.
If body fat > 15-20% then you should diet first,
higher body fat increase aromatization and side effects.

If years of training seriously < 3-4 years then you can probably still gain quite decent without AAS.

Do upload a pic of the test Deca if you can btw.
Yes, I would run the test e solo.
(With hcg, AI and PCT ofcourse)

**Gl1001** · 08-24-2017, 03:07 PM

As requested https://imgur.com/a/v0WM2

Pct: clomid 50/50/25/25 And nolva 40/20/20/20.

No hcg but I will buy it just in case and do some research over the weekend.

Again I just lift weights for fun in my spare time so I don’t think my stats are impressive. 26 years old. Not sure of my body fat but comparing myself to stock bf% images on google, I’m thinking that I’m around 15%. Hard to tell.

Sorry for short reply, I will add detail later. Getting smashed at work today.

Edit for another question: the idea of leaving the test d on my shelf seems like a waste because I doubt I will cycle again for 12 months after this cycle. Would I be an idiot for adding 125mg of d on top of my 250mg of e each time I pin, meaning I would be doing 750 per week and ensure that I don’t waste the substance?

**songdog** · 08-24-2017, 03:33 PM

Listen to the guys above they won't steer you wrong.

**Gl1001** · 08-24-2017, 03:38 PM

Originally Posted by songdog

Listen to the guys above they won't steer you wrong.

Thank you.

Yes, I am trying to learn about the science and practice involved but I admit that I am very ignorant of most aspects. I appreciate anyone who offers advice and prioritises safety

**PT1982** · 08-24-2017, 04:44 PM

This is yet one more reason "deca " shouldn't be the term for nandrolone . I'm guilty of it as well, but technically it could mean a lot of things. Even sinus medication of I were to nitpick.

**PT1982** · 08-24-2017, 04:45 PM

Originally Posted by Gl1001

Thank you.

Yes, I am trying to learn about the science and practice involved but I admit that I am very ignorant of most aspects. I appreciate anyone who offers advice and prioritises safety

Just saw this. What had gotten you into learning the science behind it? Just something to research?

**Back In Black** · 08-24-2017, 11:49 PM

Originally Posted by Gl1001

As requested https://imgur.com/a/v0WM2

Pct: clomid 50/50/25/25 And nolva 40/20/20/20.

No hcg but I will buy it just in case and do some research over the weekend.

Again I just lift weights for fun in my spare time so I don’t think my stats are impressive. 26 years old. Not sure of my body fat but comparing myself to stock bf% images on google, I’m thinking that I’m around 15%. Hard to tell.

Sorry for short reply, I will add detail later. Getting smashed at work today.

Edit for another question: the idea of leaving the test d on my shelf seems like a waste because I doubt I will cycle again for 12 months after this cycle. Would I be an idiot for adding 125mg of d on top of my 250mg of e each time I pin, meaning I would be doing 750 per week and ensure that I don’t waste the substance?

I can't see a photo in that link.

Regardless, if you are pinning test e then just continue with that at 500mg per week. No need to be more than that on your second cycle and no need to be pinning deca on your second cycle either. If you choose to pin the deca you need to extend the nolva part of your PCT by 20/20 as deca will shut you down straight away whereas test will suppress.

Get some HCG, here is why

HCG: Why you should use it on-cycle only & how to prepare your hCG for injections

Start your Adex at 0.25mg end until 2-3 days before you start your PCT

Height?
Weight?

Everybody thinks they are 15% bodyfat at most. Most people underestimate their bodyfat because they are scared to admit the reality. Maybe post a pic.

**jstone** · 08-25-2017, 11:25 AM

The picture you posted is test decanoate, which is not Decca. It's just a longer ester of testosterone . Also if you haven't opened that vial they're very under filled, unless it's a 20ml vial. What lab is that the label.looks familiar, for your sake I'm hoping it's not who I think it is.

**PT1982** · 08-25-2017, 03:16 PM

Originally Posted by jstone

The picture you posted is test decanoate, which is not Decca. It's just a longer ester of testosterone. Also if you haven't opened that vial they're very under filled, unless it's a 20ml vial. What lab is that the label.looks familiar, for your sake I'm hoping it's not who I think it is.

I got to know this myself! That top has not been flipped. Oil is below the label. Even if it is a 20ml vial, packages like this for distribution?!

**kelkel** · 08-25-2017, 04:30 PM

Originally Posted by Back In Black

Everybody thinks they are 15% bodyfat at most. Most people underestimate their bodyfat because they are scared to admit the reality. Maybe post a pic.

Prick.

**jstone** · 08-25-2017, 07:34 PM

Originally Posted by PT1982

I got to know this myself! That top has not been flipped. Oil is below the label. Even if it is a 20ml vial, packages like this for distribution?!

I thought maybe the source ran out of 10ml vials and filled Some 20ml vials to 10, just to get by for a while. If that is dynasty gear it's garbage. The labels look real similar. He scammed a bunch of people on a smaller board.

**Gl1001** · 08-25-2017, 07:51 PM

Originally Posted by jstone

The picture you posted is test decanoate, which is not Decca. It's just a longer ester of testosterone. Also if you haven't opened that vial they're very under filled, unless it's a 20ml vial. What lab is that the label.looks familiar, for your sake I'm hoping it's not who I think it is.

It's a 10ml vial.

I've been using it for a week so approximately 2ml has been used. I've put the green cap back on because I'm paranoid about bacteria but I do swab it with a wipe before i draw.

Dont want to name my source but I'm aussie and they are pretty reputable from what I've read.

**PT1982** · 08-25-2017, 08:34 PM

Originally Posted by Gl1001

It's a 10ml vial.

I've been using it for a week so approximately 2ml has been used. I've put the green cap back on because I'm paranoid about bacteria but I do swab it with a wipe before i draw.

Dont want to name my source but I'm aussie and they are pretty reputable from what I've read.

You got shorted bad bud. Just throw that top away. I lol'd at your reasoning. Just swab it. That top isn't doing a thing other than storing up garbage.

**Gl1001** · 08-25-2017, 09:47 PM

Originally Posted by PT1982

You got shorted bad bud. Just throw that top away. I lol'd at your reasoning. Just swab it. That top isn't doing a thing other than storing up garbage.

cheers mate.

Can you explain how I was shorted? here's a pic of a test e vial that I got from the same supplier i.imgur.com/uRKamoO.jpg

The test d was identical to this. I'm assuming that you're suggest that that either the vial isnt 10ml as described or perhaps that my usage doesnt fit the missing amount, which I guess indicates ive been drawing more than 1ml.

Thanks