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Thread: Test Enan vs Test Prop

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    Test Enan vs Test Prop

    Im pretty sure I already know the answer to this, but im going to ask just to make sure I do have the proper understanding. I see a lot of people say they perfer Prop. If you had Prop 100 and Enanthate 300. If you pin 1mL of the Enan twice a week, you would actually need to pin 3mL of Prop every other day just to give your body the same amount of test/ get the same amount of growth? I understand you can start PCT in 4 days instead of waiting 2 weeks as you would with Enan, but it seems like you would have so much more to gain from Enan and pin a lot less and save a good bit of cash?

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    Enthanate is the way to go.only have to pop 2 or 3 times a week vs every day plus enth stays in your system so long it's awesome.i ran dbol 20 mg for 4 weeks then 600 mg enthanate for 8 weeks and just grew and got stronger every day.love enth or cyp any day over prop

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    two answers: the easy and the slightly more precise

    easy...
    test E: 2 times per week of 1ml of 300mg/ml test E = 600mg of test E per week
    to get 600mg of test test P per week....
    you need 600mg/7days or 85.7mg per day which is 171.4 EOD...
    so you need to inject 1.7ML EOD of test P

    precise...
    you need to understand esters...
    simply put...
    test E = testosterone with an Enthanate molecule attached
    test P = testosterone with an Propionate molecule attached
    thus neither one is pure testosterone
    Your body cannot use them until the molecule is cleaved off.
    Once the molecule is cleaved off...
    100mg of Test E yields 72mg of pure testosterone
    100mg of Test P yields 83mg of pure testosterone

    so....
    600mg of test E per week yields 432mg of pure testosterone
    432mg per week of pure test is 61.7mg/day of pure test
    to get 61.7mg/day of pure test you would need .74ml of 100mg/ml of test P thus 1.48ml EOD of 100mg/ml of test P.

    Your math is way off....
    in your example you are comparing 600mg of test E per week to 1050mg of test P per week.
    (3ml of 100ml/mg test P EOD = 300mg test P EOD = 150mg test P ED = 1050mg of test P per week)

    NOTE: MY ESTER WEIGHTS MAY BE OFF)

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    Quote Originally Posted by The Deadlifting Dog View Post
    two answers: the easy and the slightly more precise

    easy...
    test E: 2 times per week of 1ml of 300mg/ml test E = 600mg of test E per week
    to get 600mg of test test P per week....
    you need 600mg/7days or 85.7mg per day which is 171.4 EOD...
    so you need to inject 1.7ML EOD of test P

    precise...
    you need to understand esters...
    simply put...
    test E = testosterone with an Enthanate molecule attached
    test P = testosterone with an Propionate molecule attached
    thus neither one is pure testosterone
    Your body cannot use them until the molecule is cleaved off.
    Once the molecule is cleaved off...
    100mg of Test E yields 72mg of pure testosterone
    100mg of Test P yields 83mg of pure testosterone

    so....
    600mg of test E per week yields 432mg of pure testosterone
    432mg per week of pure test is 61.7mg/day of pure test
    to get 61.7mg/day of pure test you would need .74ml of 100mg/ml of test P thus 1.48ml EOD of 100mg/ml of test P.

    Your math is way off....
    in your example you are comparing 600mg of test E per week to 1050mg of test P per week.
    (3ml of 100ml/mg test P EOD = 300mg test P EOD = 150mg test P ED = 1050mg of test P per week)

    NOTE: MY ESTER WEIGHTS MAY BE OFF)
    Glad I asked the question because apparently my understanding is incorrect then. I wasnt looking at per week, I was looking at what your body would constantly have in it, which I had screwed up anyway since E last 14 days in the body. I took it as you needed to pin Test E twice a week to keep 300mg from my example above, and I was under the influence that if you pinned 1 mL of Prop every other day you were basically keeping that 100mg in your system at all times. This is totally wrong then? You only look at what your weekly test mg input would be?

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    you need to understand half lives....
    a half life is how long does it take for half the drug to be gone in your body.

    simple and none simple answers...

    simple...
    Test P has a shorter half life than Test E.
    thus Test P needs to be injected more frequently to maintain stable blood levels.

    complicated answer...
    Let's just look at once a week injections....
    Let's say test E has a 7 day half life....
    If you inject 600mg of test E per week...
    7 days later you have 300mg of test E in your system.
    But now you do another shot off 600mg so know you have 900mg.
    7 days later you have 450mg of test E in your system.
    But now you do another shot off 600mg so know you have 1050mg.
    7 days later you have 525mg of test E in your system.
    But now you do another shot off 600mg so know you have 1125mg.
    7 days later you have 562mg of test E in your system.
    But now you do another shot off 600mg so know you have 1162mg.

    just forget it...
    stick with the simple answer.
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    Quote Originally Posted by The Deadlifting Dog View Post
    you need to understand half lives....
    a half life is how long does it take for half the drug to be gone in your body.

    simple and none simple answers...

    simple...
    Test P has a shorter half life than Test E.
    thus Test P needs to be injected more frequently to maintain stable blood levels.

    complicated answer...
    Let's just look at once a week injections....
    Let's say test E has a 7 day half life....
    If you inject 600mg of test E per week...
    7 days later you have 300mg of test E in your system.
    But now you do another shot off 600mg so know you have 900mg.
    7 days later you have 450mg of test E in your system.
    But now you do another shot off 600mg so know you have 1050mg.
    7 days later you have 525mg of test E in your system.
    But now you do another shot off 600mg so know you have 1125mg.
    7 days later you have 562mg of test E in your system.
    But now you do another shot off 600mg so know you have 1162mg.

    just forget it...
    stick with the simple answer.
    Deaddog- you did an excellent job explaining the theory. I would just like to caution the other readers ( I know that you know) that there are other factors and it is not as straight forward. I say this because someone used a calculator and arrived at an incorrect assumption.


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