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    Only want half a cup of coffee..you still have to buy a full one!

    Howdy guys,
    something that's probably been discussed before,but not to my knowledge.
    Started a cycle this week,that i've previously mentioned.
    It was going to be 600 test and 600 deca .I was advised to lower the deca dose,and said i would consider it.
    Well,it's kind of like the decision's been taken for me,as the deca's 250mcg's per ampoule,and the test is
    tri-test,which purports to have 300 mcg's per ampoule.
    Two of each per week,seems the way to go,so it's 500 deca and 600 test.
    I thought it would be a right fuck on trying to get 600 deca out of three ampoules,so i was wondering,is this
    the way most do their stuff,straight forward multiples of what's in the glass?

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    I always had my compounds in vial 250mg.

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    I've also only delt with 10ml vials not 1ml amps.

    You can transfer the contents of the amps into a sterile vial and then dose whatever you want.

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    Quote Originally Posted by songdog View Post
    I always had my compounds in vial 250mg.
    Yeah i get that dog,but like i said,do you then do cycles in multiples of that number?

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    Quote Originally Posted by The Deadlifting Dog View Post
    I've also only delt with 10ml vials not 1ml amps.

    You can transfer the contents of the amps into a sterile vial and then dose whatever you want.
    A number of people i know,aren't keen on the ten mls,as they seem to think there's more chance of an infection.
    I understand that shouldn't be a problem with a good sterilizing regime,but that's just the way others think.

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    I wouldn't be so hung up on the small details . if your ampules end up conveniently leaving you with 600 deca and 500 test then role with that . your not going to notice much difference if it was the other way around (and no you do not at all have to keep test dose higher then deca . . unless you just want more negative sides)

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    Quote Originally Posted by GearHeaded View Post
    I wouldn't be so hung up on the small details . if your ampules end up conveniently leaving you with 600 deca and 500 test then role with that . your not going to notice much difference if it was the other way around (and no you do not at all have to keep test dose higher then deca . . unless you just want more negative sides)
    Not hung up on it bud,just curious as to how folks roll.
    By the way,it was 500 deca plus 600 test.There is a lot of talk regarding a trt type dose of test in a stack,as opposed to always having
    the test higher than the other compounds,but i'm not sure anything's been proven advantageous either way.Horses for courses and all that.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Nogbad the bad View Post
    Not hung up on it bud,just curious as to how folks roll.
    By the way,it was 500 deca plus 600 test.There is a lot of talk regarding a trt type dose of test in a stack,as opposed to always having
    the test higher than the other compounds,but i'm not sure anything's been proven advantageous either way.Horses for courses and all that.
    Low test (TRT dose) cycles work great for guys that are sensitive to estrogenic and androgenic side effects .. I've ran a dozen or so cycles where I kept my test at only 250mg per week , BUT I used to use 1 gram of test for my blasts . What I do to make up the difference so I use a gram of gear as my base (then add other AAS to stack) is use 250mg of test and 750mg of EQ .. the EQ is way more clean then Test with far fewer sides . so the two of those put together gives me my 1 gram of test base ,, then I'll stack my cycle of NPP, Deca, Tren , Dbol , Var etc. or whatever on top of that..

    Low dose test stacks have far fewer sides effects.. high dose test on the other hand can have more mental benefits. just depends on what you prefer .

    heck you could use those ampules and run 1000 mg deca and only 300mg test and have great results with low estrogenic and androgenic sides and feel great and have awesome gains . may be better then your original plan . but heck its all an experiment of what works best for you

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    Quote Originally Posted by GearHeaded View Post
    What I do to make up the difference so I use a gram of gear as my base (then add other AAS to stack) is use 250mg of test and 750mg of EQ .. the EQ is way more clean then Test with far fewer sides . so the two of those put together gives me my 1 gram of test base ,, then I'll stack my cycle of NPP, Deca, Tren, Dbol, Var etc. or whatever on top of that..

    Why on earth so much?
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    Quote Originally Posted by kelkel View Post
    Why on earth so much?
    why so much what ? test , or EQ or what ??
    250mg of test is low and is my TRT
    750mg of EQ is pretty standard as far as EQ is concerned

    thats 1 gram of gear that gives virtually zero negative side effects . so thats what I use as a base for when I do a blast.. neither of those dosages for each of those compounds is very high and so I get no 'spill over' .. whereas if I ran 1 gram of just test a week as a base I would get spill over from that cause that would be high

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    Quote Originally Posted by GearHeaded View Post
    why so much what ? test , or EQ or what ??
    250mg of test is low and is my TRT
    750mg of EQ is pretty standard as far as EQ is concerned

    thats 1 gram of gear that gives virtually zero negative side effects . so thats what I use as a base for when I do a blast.. neither of those dosages for each of those compounds is very high and so I get no 'spill over' .. whereas if I ran 1 gram of just test a week as a base I would get spill over from that cause that would be high
    Your bone marrow must hate you.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mr.BB View Post
    Your bone marrow must hate you.
    hemoglobin was 15.2 last time blood was checked , so perfectly normal (I have more issues with nandrolones in this regard then EQ)

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    Quote Originally Posted by GearHeaded View Post
    why so much what ? test , or EQ or what ??
    250mg of test is low and is my TRT
    750mg of EQ is pretty standard as far as EQ is concerned

    thats 1 gram of gear that gives virtually zero negative side effects . so thats what I use as a base for when I do a blast.. neither of those dosages for each of those compounds is very high and so I get no 'spill over' .. whereas if I ran 1 gram of just test a week as a base I would get spill over from that cause that would be high
    Ah, ok. Then I either misread what you said or it was a bit ambiguous. I read it as you basically start with the gram then add in more on top of it.
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    Quote Originally Posted by GearHeaded View Post
    Low test (TRT dose) cycles work great for guys that are sensitive to estrogenic and androgenic side effects .. I've ran a dozen or so cycles where I kept my test at only 250mg per week , BUT I used to use 1 gram of test for my blasts . What I do to make up the difference so I use a gram of gear as my base (then add other AAS to stack) is use 250mg of test and 750mg of EQ .. the EQ is way more clean then Test with far fewer sides . so the two of those put together gives me my 1 gram of test base ,, then I'll stack my cycle of NPP, Deca , Tren , Dbol , Var etc. or whatever on top of that..

    Low dose test stacks have far fewer sides effects.. high dose test on the other hand can have more mental benefits. just depends on what you prefer .

    heck you could use those ampules and run 1000 mg deca and only 300mg test and have great results with low estrogenic and androgenic sides and feel great and have awesome gains . may be better then your original plan . but heck its all an experiment of what works best for you
    Yeah,i agree it's all an experiment.Just gonna do what i'm doing,see how it goes,then try something else.
    That is of course unless my results are really good,then i'll stick with what i know.
    Thanks for your input bud.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Nogbad the bad View Post
    Not hung up on it bud,just curious as to how folks roll.
    By the way,it was 500 deca plus 600 test.There is a lot of talk regarding a trt type dose of test in a stack,as opposed to always having
    the test higher than the other compounds,but i'm not sure anything's been proven advantageous either way.Horses for courses and all that.
    500/600 cycle is a 1100mg of gear per week. I've run it in the past and got good results. With 600mg of Deca you'll notice soft to no erections. Don't panic. It's just the sides of Deca. Run 5mg/ed to 10mg/ed of Cialis and .5mg/wk of Caber. The erectile thing seems to affect guys differently.

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    You can fine tune the dose by playing with the frequency of injections.

    Say 250mg deca monday morning and thursday evening. That's 500mg per week evenly spread out.
    You could also do 250mg deca monday morning, 250mg deca thursday morning, 250mg deca sunday morning, 250mg deca wednesday morning and so on. So 3 days in between instead of 3.5. That would give you about 600mg deca per week.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ScotchGuard02 View Post
    . With 600mg of Deca you'll notice soft to no erections. Don't panic. It's just the sides of Deca. Run 5mg/ed to 10mg/ed of Cialis and .5mg/wk of Caber. The erectile thing seems to affect guys differently.
    I would clarify that its not really the Deca /Nandrolone itself that causes this , its an elevation in Prolactin and is more pronounced in guys that are prolactin sensitive (deca dick is not caused by deca)

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    Quote Originally Posted by ScotchGuard02 View Post
    500/600 cycle is a 1100mg of gear per week. I've run it in the past and got good results. With 600mg of Deca you'll notice soft to no erections. Don't panic. It's just the sides of Deca. Run 5mg/ed to 10mg/ed of Cialis and .5mg/wk of Caber. The erectile thing seems to affect guys differently.
    Not bothered about erections,or lack of them,besides every morning i wake,i could hang my bathrobe on it.Ever tried going back to sleep?You can sleep
    with a light on,but not with a hard on!
    Iam using caber btw.

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    Quote Originally Posted by VII View Post
    You can fine tune the dose by playing with the frequency of injections.

    Say 250mg deca monday morning and thursday evening. That's 500mg per week evenly spread out.
    You could also do 250mg deca monday morning, 250mg deca thursday morning, 250mg deca sunday morning, 250mg deca wednesday morning and so on. So 3 days in between instead of 3.5. That would give you about 600mg deca per week.
    Mondays and thursdays does for me.

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