Calories and tren

**Heel94** · 01-26-2018, 09:51 AM

So obviously if gaining muscle is the goal, regardless of the compounds being used, a calorie surplus is a necessity. However, would you say that in general, running tren ace necessitates an even higher calorie surplus to really reap the full benefits if the goal is a lean bulk? In other words, if you were trying to add clean lean mass, would you eat a higher caloric intake on tren vs other compounds/cycles due to its nutrient partioning benefits?

**charger69** · 01-26-2018, 10:10 AM

I personally only use tren for cutting however some do use it for bulking.
Tren will raise your body temperature a little bit , but I consider it negligible. Everyone is different however I would not relate the caloric intake due to the compound, but rather based on your cardio and workouts.

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**David LoPan** · 01-26-2018, 11:28 AM

Yes, I would suggest that you add another 500 to 800 calories while trying to grow on tren over your TYEE amounts for bulk.

OP, You are 23. Why are you running AAS at all? Are you looking for professional competitions? Tren is very taxing on the body, especially on the younger guys. I would hold off on tren. IMO

**gb123** · 01-26-2018, 01:17 PM

Tren completely fucks with my appetite so have never been able to bulk on it, if you are using it to bulk increase your calories, if you are cutting youll need to prob lower them.
Tren helps by binding to fat receptors so its harder to put on fat but you'll still need to adjust you calories accordingly.

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**GearHeaded** · 01-26-2018, 01:41 PM

Tren revs up your metabolic rate and turns on all sorts of anabolic mechanisms .. these processes all require energy/calories. so yes if your trying to bulk you'll need more calories running Tren then you would with say Test. I'd venture to say at least 600 more as a starting point.

also your going to need estrogen to bulk on Tren.. Tren is so dry and androgenic you could very well lose weight if your estrogen is way low and your calories are not sufficient (unless your a total newb then you can respond and grow on pretty much anything).

but these factors are what make Tren such a great cutter. just by taking the Tren (with no change in diet or training), you'll harden up and lose body fat.

this is why Tren is also a great recomp drug.. you'll be able to build muscle in a calorie surplus, yet keep from putting on fat because of Trens binding to AR receptors in fat cells and its lowering of Cortisol .

its pretty much the most versatile all around Steroid there is . you just gotta know how to manipulate things to your goals (like adding in a wet compound to bulk with Tren)

**charger69** · 01-26-2018, 02:53 PM

Originally Posted by GearHeaded

Tren revs up your metabolic rate and turns on all sorts of anabolic mechanisms .. these processes all require energy/calories. so yes if your trying to bulk you'll need more calories running Tren then you would with say Test. I'd venture to say at least 600 more as a starting point.

also your going to need estrogen to bulk on Tren.. Tren is so dry and androgenic you could very well lose weight if your estrogen is way low and your calories are not sufficient (unless your a total newb then you can respond and grow on pretty much anything).

but these factors are what make Tren such a great cutter. just by taking the Tren (with no change in diet or training), you'll harden up and lose body fat.

this is why Tren is also a great recomp drug.. you'll be able to build muscle in a calorie surplus, yet keep from putting on fat because of Trens binding to AR receptors in fat cells and its lowering of Cortisol .

its pretty much the most versatile all around Steroid there is . you just gotta know how to manipulate things to your goals (like adding in a wet compound to bulk with Tren)

I guess I am just different. LOL
If I responded as a textbook example, I would lose a lot of weight on tren from just the tren. I only use it for cutting, so I am on a caloric deficit. I see the hardening effect, but I do not lose additional weight that I should based on the description. The only thing that O do need to watch is tren suppresses my appetite.

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