Tren = Alzheimer's

**Eduke93** · 04-23-2018, 05:04 AM

Anyone have any up to date info on this, has it been debunked yet?

http://www.ergo-log.com/trenbolone-m...er-s-risk.html

**hammerheart** · 04-23-2018, 05:10 AM

Originally Posted by Eduke93

Anyone have any up to date info on this, has it been debunked yet?

I did somewhat debunk it in a thread a while ago. That study was done by veterinarian and mechanic bio-engineering (under?) graduates of sorts and it features high dose tren directly infused in the hyppocampus of monkeys or hamsters I don't recall well. Thus, a very distant scenario from real life/in vivo applications, unless you pin your brain with Tren ofc.

**Eduke93** · 04-23-2018, 05:15 AM

Originally Posted by bizzarro

I did somewhat debunk it in a thread a while ago. That study was done by veterinarian and mechanic bio-engineering (under?) graduates of sorts and it features high dose tren directly infused in the hyppocampus of monkeys or hamsters I don't recall well. Thus, a very distant scenario from real life/in vivo applications, unless you pin your brain with Tren ofc.

I believe the link on the OP, was carried out on rats. Not sure if this makes a difference on your part in terms of debunking?

**hammerheart** · 04-23-2018, 05:18 AM

Originally Posted by Eduke93

I believe the link on the OP, was carried out on rats. Not sure if this makes a difference on your part in terms of debunking?

No. But don't mind me, I've been on (low dose) Tren for a tad too long, it might be starting to show off its degenerative effects lol.

**Eduke93** · 04-23-2018, 05:22 AM

Originally Posted by bizzarro

No. But don't mind me, I've been on (low dose) Tren for a tad too long, it might be starting to show off its degenerative effects lol.

lol, how long is too long? Hows you hands, got any tremors?

I mean, in the grand scheme of things there are dudes who run tren in excess of 1gram. And they are still going strong…

Personally, after my current run of tren which is a very small dose alongside other drugs (literally using it for the sake of it as I don’t want it going to waste), I’m going to avoid using it mainly because it is so destructive when it comes to lipids. I’ve never ran it that high though.

Just intrigued with this whole Alzheimer's thing though...

**tarmyg** · 04-23-2018, 05:47 AM

Drugs and treatments.
17β-trenbolone was purchased from Dr. Ehrenstorfer GmbH (Germany). T, DHT, ﬂutamide, fulvestrant, and trilostane were purchased from Sigma (USA). In animal experiments, 161 17β-trenbolone was dissolved in laboratory-grade corn oil (Sigma, USA) with ﬁnal concentration of 5 mg/ml, 1 mg/ml, and 0.2 mg/ml, respectively. Rats were divided into several groups with each group having six rats. Rats were injected with corn oil (control) or 165 17β-trenbolone solution (0.1 ml/100 g body weight) once intramuscularly on the right hind limbs. Pregnant rats were injected on GD 16. Male rats in groups Am, Bm, Cm, Dm, Em, and Fm were injected with 5 mg/ml 17β-trenbolone solution and the treating time were 0.5 h, 2 h, 6 h, 12 h, 24 h, and 48 h, respectively. Male rats in groups Gm and Hm were injected with 17β-trenbolone solution of 1 and 0.2 mg/ml, respectively. The treating time was 48 h. Male rats in group Om was control. Accordingly, female rats in groups Af, Bf, Cf, Df, 173 Ef, and Ff were injected with 5mg/ml 17β-trenbolone solution and the treating times were 0.5 h, 2 h, 6 h, 12 h, 24 h, and 48
h, respectively. Female rats in groups Gf and Hf were injected with 17β-trenbolone solution of 1 and 0.2 mg/ml, respectively. The treating time was 48 h. Female rats in group Om was control. Pregnant rats in group P were treated with 5 mg/ml 17β-trenbolone solution for 48h. Group Op was control.

REF: https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/25461682

**hammerheart** · 04-23-2018, 06:41 AM

Originally Posted by Eduke93

lol, how long is too long? Hows you hands, got any tremors?

I mean, in the grand scheme of things there are dudes who run tren in excess of 1gram. And they are still going strong…

Personally, after my current run of tren which is a very small dose alongside other drugs (literally using it for the sake of it as I don’t want it going to waste), I’m going to avoid using it mainly because it is so destructive when it comes to lipids. I’ve never ran it that high though.

Just intrigued with this whole Alzheimer's thing though...

20mg ED for nearly one year. No tremors to reckon, used to but was just too high on thyroid meds. I tolerate it well my lipids are pretty resilient. No aggression to report either, it keeps me happy and going more than anything.

Only sides are increased need for food, can't bear any calorie deficit (especially low carb) nor fasting, and the thermogenic boost is not welcome at all during summer.

Disclaimer: I don't recommend running TREN this long to anyone. In fact, I'd advise anybody to refrain from taking any tren at all.

**gb123** · 04-23-2018, 07:31 AM

Not sure about tren , but i have been reading up about aspartame potentially causing dementia and alzhiemers which is a much more scary thought.

Thing is there are lots of studies that claim this and that and anyone who knows anything about research is that results can easily be skewed based on what you want the results to represent. (Bias)

Dementia has been around a long time its only now that we are more aware of it that we wonder what is the cause and the cause may be out of the grasp of today's scientist to figure out, there are far too many variables..

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**Eduke93** · 04-23-2018, 07:50 AM

Originally Posted by bizzarro

20mg ED for nearly one year. No tremors to reckon, used to but was just too high on thyroid meds. I tolerate it well my lipids are pretty resilient. No aggression to report either, it keeps me happy and going more than anything.

Only sides are increased need for food, can't bear any calorie deficit (especially low carb) nor fasting, and the thermogenic boost is not welcome at all during summer.

Disclaimer: I don't recommend running TREN this long to anyone. In fact, I'd advise anybody to refrain from taking any tren at all.

Nice, that's a long run... But low dose! Cant imagine the sides being bad!

**< <Samson> >** · 04-23-2018, 07:51 AM

Tren - well, I'll let u know if I get there

Most shit that we r on has not had formal human clinical trials

Makes life more interesting that way

**Eduke93** · 04-23-2018, 08:43 AM

Originally Posted by < <Samson> >

Tren - well, I'll let u know if I get there

Most shit that we r on has not had formal human clinical trials

Makes life more interesting that way

lol, suppose it puts a twist on things....

**< <Samson> >** · 04-23-2018, 08:59 AM

My concerns with sauce r endless, but looking & feeling like avg schmo sucks - so, here we r

Ahh, time for another oil change this week - that reminds me

**Eduke93** · 04-23-2018, 09:18 AM

Originally Posted by < <Samson> >

My concerns with sauce r endless, but looking & feeling like avg schmo sucks - so, here we r

Ahh, time for another oil change this week - that reminds me

lol, True.. despite the bad sides.. I think the pro's out weigh them, as long as your sensible of course... which we all are... Sometimes.

**< <Samson> >** · 04-23-2018, 10:57 AM

It's def a life long mind fvck

I pay so much to be in the top 5% - but, atm it's still worth it

**newsteroiduser** · 05-02-2018, 06:16 AM

I'm new to Tren but wouldn't it be right to say that the lower the dose, the lower the risk? so that if you keep a low dose you shouldn't be concerned?

**hammerheart** · 05-02-2018, 05:09 PM

Originally Posted by newsteroiduser

I'm new to Tren but wouldn't it be right to say that the lower the dose, the lower the risk? so that if you keep a low dose you shouldn't be concerned?

Tren is a strong compound and a bit goes a long way, using the less dosage to suit your needs it's a wise way to keep sides at a minimum, including psych ones.

A cycle of Tren won't give you Alzheimer anyway, don't worry about that.

Of course it's even better if you stay away from Tren at all, it depends how much are you willing to trade away pieces of your health for physique improvement.