Half life questions

[Rjr1983]

Running 125mg test e every 4 days. 5 weeks into cycle. While asking about pct on another thread i was told my cycle was pointless, basically replacing natural with exogenous test. Am i just misunderstanding the half life thing? 125mg will be at 62.5mg after 10 days... But if im adding 125mg every 4 days, that means that my levels will continue to rise, right? I'm not looking for big gains in size on this cycle, just interesred in feeling out how gear affects me ( it's my first cycle) and seeing some asthetic benefits. Please tell me if i'm just misinformed here.

[usernamewastaken]

You're just fucking your body up for no reason(since 125mg is pretty useless).This isn't tren you need some dosage for the test to do something to you.Imo stop cycle do pct and inform yourself whenever you want to do a cycle again.

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[Rjr1983]

So...about the half life thing... That wasnt really an answer. Ive put on ten lbs. Since i started the cycle. No noticible fat gain. Im happy with the results so far, just was curious about half lives, wasnt really looking for scathing condemnations about using low levels of test... Thanks anyway though for the pct advice.

[Windex]

The half life doesn't work in the manner you are thinking of unfortunately.

Injections should be done every 3rd day or 3.5 days for stable blood levels.

Also technically the ester is weighted so a 125mg injection has less than 125mg total test (besides the point).

The average male produces about 80-100ng of Test per week. The standard practice for Testosterone Replacement Therapy is between 100-200mg/week. Most members here that are on HRT tend to fall in the 150mg mark.

You are barely taking above a replacement dose of Test and shutting down your endocrine system in doing so. The cycle you have is basically wasted because shutting down your system for a marginal benefit.

Your cycle is basically the equivalent of selling a 2017 Honda Civic and buying a 2018 Honda Civic.


Weight =/= Muscle, common misconception. 10 lbs can easily be attributed to water bloat and fat. If you are in a caloric surplus you would be gaining weight regardless of whether or not you are on steroids .

[charger69]

The half life doesn't work in the manner you are thinking of unfortunately.

Injections should be done every 3rd day or 3.5 days for stable blood levels.

Also technically the ester is weighted so a 125mg injection has less than 125mg total test (besides the point).

The average male produces about 80-100ng of Test per week. The standard practice for Testosterone Replacement Therapy is between 100-200mg/week. Most members here that are on HRT tend to fall in the 150mg mark.

You are barely taking above a replacement dose of Test and shutting down your endocrine system in doing so. The cycle you have is basically wasted because shutting down your system for a marginal benefit.

Your cycle is basically the equivalent of selling a 2017 Honda Civic and buying a 2018 Honda Civic.


Weight =/= Muscle, common misconception. 10 lbs can easily be attributed to water bloat and fat. If you are in a caloric surplus you would be gaining weight regardless of whether or not you are on steroids.

Daily injections keep serum levels stable. Take a shitload of tren every 3 days and then daily. You will feel the difference from the stability


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[Cupid]

125mg E4D is approx 220mg per week, which is just slightly over TRT dose. Definitely a waste.

"I'm not looking for big gains in size on this cycle, just interesred in feeling out how gear affects me"

- I'm don't mean to be rude bro, but your above statement is beyond retarded. Your fucking with something that comes with a heavy price. The price you pay for 250mg per week is virtually the same as 500mg per week.
It's the equivalent of saying that you were offered $500 to cut yourself with a knife by person A, and $20,000 to cut yourself with a knife by person B....but u decided to take person A's offer, because you are not really interested in the money, but more so interested in seeing how you will be affected by cutting yourself with a knife.

[Rjr1983]

That makes sense. Thank you for your reply. If the risks are nearly the same then I've definitely wasted my time. I appreciate the responses guys. Minimizing the risks was my main concern, so thanks for setting me strait.

[AlphaMindz]

There is a little more complexity to this.

I made some nice gains on 250mg of test per week. Albeit my natty levels were around 280 or so before I started so it was a noticeable increase and I felt the difference. If someone has normal to high levels then, yes, it would be counter-intuitive to run a dose that low. However, if you have low T then surely 250mgs/week will make a difference.

[Mr.BB]

Test E or C half life is not 10 days, it's half that.

[Quester]

^^ Additionally, half life is the time it takes for a med to be at half strength. If it takes 4 days to reach half potency (the half life), it will take 2 days to reach half that potency, 1 day to reach half that, 12 hours, then 6... After 3 iterations, your at 12.5%, after 6, its at less than 1 and at 7, nill

[Rjr1983]

So i havent reached my next injection day yet. Everyone seems to be telling me to pct and start over, but couldn't i still get what i can out of it by doubling my dosage for the remaining cycle? Or is that also a bad idea?

[Quester]

No, and not to be rude but look at it this way. Nobody is withholding information from you and most of us have more experience than you do. Everything you think of, has been thought of and the answer is still, no, it is best to stop at 12 weeks.
Good luck and I hope your happy with your decision.

[Rjr1983]

Stop at 12 weeks? But im only at week 5. Thats why im asking. If i can double up and continue to week 12 then would it salvage the cycle or is it a complete wash already just 5 weeks in?

[Fernande]

If you inject 125mg every 4 days.

125mg x 0.7 = 87,5mg of test.

A normal guy in top range natural production produces around 10mg per day. Wich im pretty sure you werent at before you started your cycle even. More like 6mg per day.

You are more than double that of 10 and almost 4 times that of a regular test production. I'm sure that your cycle will give you results, perhaps just not anything remarkable like you can tell your friends you increased 60lbs bench the last 3months.

[Windex]

Stop at 12 weeks? But im only at week 5. Thats why im asking. If i can double up and continue to week 12 then would it salvage the cycle or is it a complete wash already just 5 weeks in?

I would run a PCT, save what gear you have left, and run bloodwork in 6-8 weeks after PCT.

Regardless of what you decide to do, you need to invest a lot more time in the education of anabolics. There are tons of stickies here containing information. Read them all, twice.

In the meantime, I would also challenge your nutrition regime and post your complete diet in our diet and nutrition section. Even if you had cycled correctly this time, you will get zero benefit without a correctly dialed in diet.

I also saw no mention of HCG . You haven't done your homework, so you shouldn't be taking the test (pun intended).

[Rjr1983]

Thanks to everyone who replied, appreciate the advice & sharing of knowledge.