07-16-2003, 07:23 PM #1
my friend doesn't like to use test
my friend wants to lean out a little bit. it would be his 2nd cycle, 6'5 253lbs at about 12-15%bf, and has been training for over 2 years. he wants to do winny by itself or with eq. i told him it would be a good idea to run at least 200mg of enanthate so he doesn't shut down his hpta at the end of this cycle. what do you guys think?
07-16-2003, 07:29 PM #2
Will be shut regardless.
What are his goals besides wanting to "lean out a little bit" because if that's all he wants to do there are better choices like DIET for one.
07-16-2003, 07:40 PM #3
No need for the test while cutting. Up the fat and lower the carbs with the diet.
07-16-2003, 07:42 PM #4New Member
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Tell him to do Winny stacked with Clentebrol. Winny everyday 50 mg a day for 10 weeks, and clen for 120mg a day for 10 weeks. Thats a good natural, safe cut cyce. Also he has to eat under 3,000 calories a day. cardio 3 times a week @30 MINS on treadmill. I know I know..the treadmill are for bitches...but its also for guys!! Also tell him to supplement on ABS Ripped force extreme 20 mins prior to workout to get his metbolism from a Thyroixine t4, to the stronger thyroixine t3..in other words...FAST MUTHAFUCKING METABOLISM!
07-16-2003, 08:31 PM #5
Winny for 10 weeks? You must have a liver made of steel! I would not recommend running it for more than 6 and the clen needs to be alternated 2 weeks on 2 off, with ECA in the "off" time, unless of course you are also using Ketofen (sp?).
07-16-2003, 08:37 PM #6
The benefits of test far outweigh any negatives in any cycle for 99% of the people. It won't keep him from being shutdown but your body doesn't like to be without it. I don't recommend winny for ten weeks but he could do an EQ/winny cycle.
07-17-2003, 12:23 AM #7
well i guess i was wrong. i'll pass on the info. thanks guys
07-17-2003, 01:58 PM #8
Rickson is right. NO CYCLE is complete without TEST. Also, I wouldn't recomend running Winny for 10 weeks. I would run it max 6 weeks at 50mg ED/EOD. Muscle, Not to be an ass, But I think you've been warned several times about giving out bad advise......Be very careful, a newbie might take your advise and really screw themselves up!
07-17-2003, 03:35 PM #9Originally Posted by Methuselah
Want to expalin that one?
Always use test. Unless you enjoy feeling like shit, being tired, and having no sex drive/impotence.
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