bringing nuts back while on mild cycle without hcg

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07-29-2003, 09:57 AM
flexshack

bringing nuts back while on mild cycle without hcg

i am pretty depressed about losing my nuts. i am actually only on a very weak baby cycle of 30 mgs daily of var. my nuts have definately shrunk some but seem to fluctuate a little in size throughout the day. i am guessing that this is because the var isn't completely shutting me down but only is suppressing some of my natural test. i also have a very diminished sex drive and feel really shitty especially in the morning and afternoon hours. my question is: can i use clomid to try and spark my testes back to their original size even if i continue cycling? i know it wouldn't do anything for someone who is shut down but i really doubt i am completely down. (btw, no i don't have hcg and yes i know that this would do what i want but like i said i don't have it and probably wouldn't want to use it either.) i feel depressed a lot and i am pretty desperate here so any help or support would be nice. i really have considered but am torn between just ending short my cycle and starting clomid now or completing or at least have some more time on the cycle because i did really want to see more gains, which i am making slowly. please help me out. thanks to all who reply.
flex
07-29-2003, 12:00 PM
bad brains

I'd throw in clomid at 100mgs a day......
07-29-2003, 12:32 PM
gundam675

hcg might help at 500 - 1000 iu every 5 days until finished !

hit the search button, i think this has been covered many times in the past !
07-29-2003, 12:36 PM
flexshack

Quote:

Originally Posted by gundam675

hcg might help at 500 - 1000 iu every 5 days until finished !

hit the search button, i think this has been covered many times in the past !

thanks but i cannot get nor want to use hcg. rather stick to clomid. thanks though.
07-30-2003, 09:45 AM
Bigun

Is this because you dont want to inject yourself?

If it is the HCG can be injected using an insulin needle and believe me, this hurts less than popping a spot!
07-30-2003, 09:49 AM
ripped4fsu

I have read that clomid will bring the boys back even during a cycle, but that it can trigger Acne break-outs in the process... but don't take my word for it since I have never tried it... do some research.
good luck!
07-30-2003, 10:09 AM
gundam675

yeah clomid at around 50 - 100 mg/ed should do fine, but hcg is the king ! up to you ! since ur cycle is light u can use the clomid. hcg injections are easy as pie, even easier than test injections, u can use a insulin needle and inject subQ !

whichever way u choose, good luck !
07-30-2003, 10:15 AM
ichabodcrane

Alot of people state that clomid helps to restore some testicular function during cycle. I am still debating this because I don't see how the hypo/pit. can be stimulated while being shut down due to increased hormone levels. Obviously you are lacking endogenous LH, as this is what leads to atrophy. My theory is: once you are inhibited, you are staying inhibited. This means no (or at least diminished) endogenous FSH/LH, test production. Until all hormone levels reach a low enough level for the hypo/pit to recognize this, it will not respond. But that is not to say my theory is right or wrong. You could try and run a course of clomid. I guarantee that hCG (synthetic LH) is what you are looking for though. It is easy to find, easy to use, and painless if you are smart about it.