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Hey all, want some expoerienced advice from those who have bridged. Is 20 mg ED anavar through clomid a good idea? Can I DIET through this period without having to really worry about losing muscle? Would it be better to go through with the clomid, then diet after with the same bridge for a few weeks until cycle starts? Primo is an option as well I suppose but the var is soooooo much cheaper for me. Kinda hard to resist. Advice is greatly appreciated please and thank you.
20mg/Day of Var taken all in the morn is the way to go IMO I would start your Var After the Clomid is finished.
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Nathan I don't think bridging is a good idea at all , your body needs a chance to rest, and so do your receptors!
However if your going to bridge, I have found taking 200mgs of
Primo and 250 mgs of sus/week or just 500mgs of sus every 2 weeks with clen , helped me to maintain my strength and size
very well. however when you think your ready to start your next cycle, don't expect the same gains with the same doses as before, because your receptors haven't fully recovered from such prolonged AS use.
Idon't know about taking ORALS for bridging, lets give the liver a rest to?
Test in lower doses as mentioned above hardly effect the liver values in comparison to Orals. I've had my blood levels monitored before while taking 500mgs sus every 2weeks and my liver values were all in the safe zone
So consider the variables before plunging forward, Myself I would
follow juice junkies advice.
follow:unsure:
From what I've read IGF-1 R3 is the absoloute best choice for a bridge........if can get it and afford it. Insulin is not a bad choice if you feel educated and confident that you won't kill yourself. I myself, even in the light of discovery than anavar is not the best choice, am gonna try 20mg daily after my current cycle. I might change that to primo.....we'll see.
[QUOTE]Originally posted by Mallet
[B]Nathan I don't think bridging is a good idea at all , your body needs a chance to rest, and so do your receptors!
Iam with you on this one Its best to rest...
You bastards. I read everything before, especially Juice Junkie's study (thank you), and did take your advice seriously, which is why I looked into Primo. The bottom line is this really, I WILL be giving my body a break. Period. I WILL NOT be bridging all the time. I was just considering trying it since I have a good deal on var NOW and it is the only way I will probably ever be able to afford to try it. Having said that, I also would like to diet in between cycles and quite honestly, that isn't such a great idea without gear in between cycles, ya know? I'll lose too much muscle. It's next to impossible to do with androgens already slightly sub-normal levels after clomid. Soooooo, I am considering the option of a few weeks of low dose var before my next fina cycle (maybe some winny or eq with it). I realize bridging is never really the best idea, but I can't afford slin or HGH, etc. Okay, I think I'll go ahead and buy the var and if I decide not to try bridging then I'll just an 8 weeks fina/var cycle. I think I'll have to research bridging some more. Thanks guys and any more advice is more than welcome (to save me having to ask again later :D).
i say, take your own advice, buy the Var NOW, and use it in a future cutting cycle.
"From what I've read IGF-1 R3 is the absoloute best choice for a bridge........if can get it and afford it. Insulin is not a bad choice if you feel educated and confident that you won't kill yourself"
Slin and IGF1 = same danger
Let's keep thiis debate going as I personally am of the opinion that is a good one. If necessary, I will provide tea and Christmas cookies to rekindle interest in the topic at hand. Now, talk amongst yourselves.:)
I was speaking to one of my local buddies about the idea of bridging.Quote:
Originally posted by Nathan
Let's keep thiis debate going as I personally am of the opinion that is a good one. If necessary, I will provide tea and Christmas cookies to rekindle interest in the topic at hand. Now, talk amongst yourselves.:)
His opinion was this... Unless you choose one of the substances that has litte (or no) effect on HPTA, you are basically doing a light AAS cycle. Anything that suppreses your natural test levels is putting you on cycle.
I pretty much agree with him on that viewpoint.
my list of substances for a bridge (as in allowing your hpta to restore):
DHEA (for cortisol management)
arimidex (test production boost)
clomid/bromo (test production boost)
insulin/slin/creatine (anabolic)
EPO (anabolic)
igf-1R3 (anabolic)
pgf2 (kind of sucks by itself)
proviron (restores sex drive, keeps you from getting depressed)
Viagra (just for fun, plus keeps you from panicking)
powerlift routine as in short, basic and heavy.
I don't do that all at the same time
What is EPO, is DHEA good for any post cycle, what is bromo, what is pgf2, where can I get proviron (Is this a MD item and if I am not suffering from any hairloss, will a doctor prescribe it), how long is Viagra good for.Quote:
Originally posted by Mr. Nobody
my list of substances for a bridge (as in allowing your hpta to restore):
DHEA (for cortisol management)
arimidex (test production boost)
clomid/bromo (test production boost)
insulin/slin/creatine (anabolic)
EPO (anabolic)
igf-1R3 (anabolic)
pgf2 (kind of sucks by itself)
proviron (restores sex drive, keeps you from getting depressed)
Viagra (just for fun, plus keeps you from panicking)
powerlift routine as in short, basic and heavy.
I don't do that all at the same time
Do a search on those hatchblack. Most are not friendly substances and can be quite dangerous to the inexpereinced user.
JJ, I just wanted some more people's opinions, preferably from someone who actually HAS bridged with var. I have yet to hear from someone who has and how it went. Everyone seems to have an OPINION but where are all the guys who have experience?