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    Cool 2nd cycle

    hi first ill give my stats

    age: 21
    height: 5foot7
    weight: 198 pounds
    training for: 2year6 months
    1 year and 6 months serious weight lifting

    diet consume roughly 5k cals per day
    protein: mammoth 2500
    creatine: creapure reflex nutrition
    vitamins: a-z multi-v & milk thistle

    ok this is wht i have bought:

    naposim d bol
    17 200mg deca norma hellas vials
    17 250mg test enanthate iran vials
    6 shots of hcg (post cycle therpy)
    1 box nolvadex 20mg tabs

    i have 1 previous cycle experince which consisted of:
    sust 250 pakisanti 250mg vials

    250mg per week for 8 weeks

    now my question is how should i run the above cycle im thinking of

    25mg dbol per day
    400mg deca per week
    500mg test ent per week
    use nolv when(hope not)gyno kicks in but i have no experince of it occuring
    and hcg after the cycle at one per week so that will last six weeks

    also i dont want to use clomid cus i get bad side effects from using it so is it oik if i use the nolv

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    yes, use it like this.
    Test Week 1-10 500mg/week
    Deca Week 1-10 400mg/week

    how many dbol do u have?

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    how about the hcg and nolv

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    nolva, use it at 20mg ed if u got any sign of gyno.
    hcg . how many I.U is every amp?

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    1500iu

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    you dont need hcg in your cycle.. but if you want your nuts back quicker then use 3 of the ams 500I.U every day in 9 days in the middle of the cycle, and take the other three at the same way at the end of the cycle.. buy some clomid and use it at the end.

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    the thing is is there any way i can use nolv instead of clomid

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    Run the enth to 11wks. No need for HCG in this cycle. Start your post cycle clomid 3wks after your last shot of deca ; 2wks after the enth. Have you thought about adding a little winny towards the end to help solidify your gains and so that you'll be cycling right up to your clomid.

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    talk more about winny how much would i need and as i said before could i not use clomid?

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    Quote Originally Posted by nokia
    the thing is is there any way i can use nolv instead of clomid
    it is possible, but i would reommend clomid to be safe.

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    its extremly difficult for me to get clomid

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    so as u see my perdiciment, so i need to work round that

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    Quote Originally Posted by nokia
    talk more about winny how much would i need and as i said before could i not use clomid?
    Include the winny wks 7-12 @ 50mg/ED. I always include winny in my cycles because of the hardening and pumping effects I get. I apoligize bro, I failed to read your entire thread. This may be a tough situation. I have never used anything but clomid for my post cycles. It most effective for restarting testicular production. Is it hard for you to get clomid or you just cannot take it due to unwanted sides?

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    well to tell the truth its very hard for me to get ity and also ive been reading on it and the sides man scare me to be totally honest so which winny do i need or shall i get the tabs or the injection and how many do u get in a packet teh tab version

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    Quote Originally Posted by nokia
    well to tell the truth its very hard for me to get ity and also ive been reading on it and the sides man scare me to be totally honest so which winny do i need or shall i get the tabs or the injection and how many do u get in a packet teh tab version
    I have used clomid for all my post cycles and have never expirienced any unwanted sides. I really don't recall anyone telling any horror stories about clomid. As far as the winny thats up to you. Either tabs or the depot. Although the depot can be taken orally as well. No need to stick yourself ED. There are many manufactures of winny. Some make 2mg tabs, 10, 25, 50. Its really dependent on your source. Whatever the case run it like I stated above. BTW check your PM.

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