?'s on upcoming cycle

**lucky27** · 08-07-2003, 10:39 AM

Stat's 26 yrs. 6'3" , 255 lbs around 12-13 % BF
Cycle-
Weeks 1-15 - Enanthate - 600 mg's/WK
Weeks 1-14 - EQ - 500 mg's/WK
Weeks 1- 3 & 15-17 - Prop - 100 mg's/ED
Weeks 10 -17 - Tren 75mg/ED or 100/EOD
Weeks 12-17 - Winny 50 mg's/ED
Weeks 1-21 - Liquidex - .5 mg/ED
Weeks 18-21 - Clomid - normal PCT for 4 weeks
Weeks 18-21 - Nolvadex - 10 or 20 mgs/ED with PCT
Weeks ? & ? - Hcg - ? on dosage
Weeks ? - T3- 4 weeks cycle with fast ramp up & slow ramp down
Weeks ? - Clen Cycle 2 weeks on 2 weeks off W/ ECA stack

Now for the questions:

1) Is the prop dosage to high? should it be more like 75 mg/ED.
2) Is the Tren in the right place? Iwas thinking of running it until week
18 then starting PCT. (Winny & prop would be extended as well)
3) Which dosage for the TREN, 75 mg/ED or 100 mg/EOD or 150mg/EOD?
4) I would rather run Anavar , instead of Winny, CAn I substitute the Var
in place of the winny, if so, what weeks & dosage's should the VAR
be at? My anavar is injectible, 20mg/ml.
5) What weeks and dosage should the Hcg be at. I want to do 1 week in
middle of cycle and 1 week at end of cycle.
6) What week should the T3 be thrown in, I'm thinking 14-17 ?
7) Would femara be a better choice over Liquidex?

Sorry for the long thread and the numerous questions! Just trying to get everthing lined out, all my gear is purchased including ancillaries, Going to start Aug. 18th.
Thanks to whoever spends the time reading this and replies!

***Pheedno*** · 08-07-2003, 11:03 AM

Originally Posted by lucky27

Stat's 26 yrs. 6'3" , 255 lbs around 12-13 % BF
Cycle-
Weeks 1-15 - Enanthate - 600 mg's/WK
Weeks 1-14 - EQ - 500 mg's/WK
Weeks 1- 3 & 15-17 - Prop - 100 mg's/ED
Weeks 10 -17 - Tren 75mg/ED or 100/EOD
Weeks 12-17 - Winny 50 mg's/ED
Weeks 1-21 - Liquidex - .5 mg/ED
Weeks 18-21 - Clomid - normal PCT for 4 weeks
Weeks 18-21 - Nolvadex - 10 or 20 mgs/ED with PCT
Weeks ? & ? - Hcg - ? on dosage
Weeks ? - T3- 4 weeks cycle with fast ramp up & slow ramp down
Weeks ? - Clen Cycle 2 weeks on 2 weeks off W/ ECA stack

Now for the questions:

1) Is the prop dosage to high? should it be more like 75 mg/ED.
2) Is the Tren in the right place? Iwas thinking of running it until week
18 then starting PCT. (Winny & prop would be extended as well)
3) Which dosage for the TREN, 75 mg/ED or 100 mg/EOD or 150mg/EOD?
4) I would rather run Anavar , instead of Winny, CAn I substitute the Var
in place of the winny, if so, what weeks & dosage's should the VAR
be at? My anavar is injectible, 20mg/ml.
5) What weeks and dosage should the Hcg be at. I want to do 1 week in
middle of cycle and 1 week at end of cycle.
6) What week should the T3 be thrown in, I'm thinking 14-17 ?
7) Would femara be a better choice over Liquidex?

Sorry for the long thread and the numerous questions! Just trying to get everthing lined out, all my gear is purchased including ancillaries, Going to start Aug. 18th.
Thanks to whoever spends the time reading this and replies!

1. I think the Prop dosage is fine for your size and BF.
2. Tren is in the perfect place, you can go into clomid 2 days after the last injection
3. 75mg ED
4. 50mg ED for the same amount of time
5. I would do 500iu's on Mon/Tues from wk7-16
6. On the T3, you want to have it tapered out at least 4wks before clomid, so your not recovering thyroid and HPTA at the same time
7. I like L-dex, Femara tends to substantially unbalance my lipid panel

A couple of notes
I would include 10mg of Nolva alongside the L-dex. It's SERM qualities will aid in keeping your lipid panel stable and it also serves as a back up if the L-dex doesn't work to the degree you hope(this has happened to me before)

I'd put your clen starting at clomid

**custom fit** · 08-07-2003, 11:19 AM

I like it, i'm at work right now so i didn't read all your Q's, but I likie

**lucky27** · 08-07-2003, 01:19 PM

Thanks Pheedno, You got the answers to Questions as usual, your a good bro!

**xtremesport14** · 08-07-2003, 02:36 PM

I like the way you have it planned out. I agree with the Nolva at the same time as L-dex and also starting T3 earlier. Your gonna be a monster!! GOOD LUCK.

**lucky27** · 08-07-2003, 03:28 PM

Whats the verdict on Nolva hendering gains ?

**lucky27** · 08-07-2003, 03:42 PM

Also, what is the difference I'm going to see with the Anavar instead of Winny. I've done winny before, QV and **, and liked the results, hardening and vascularity.

**trimunex** · 08-07-2003, 03:59 PM

Originally Posted by lucky27

Whats the verdict on Nolva hendering gains ?

imho .. it wouldn't even be noticeable.

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**TheJuicer** · 08-07-2003, 04:10 PM

Why do you guys think that nolva should be ran with the L-dex...dont they do the same thing?...........I'm still learning! Thanx

**lucky27** · 08-08-2003, 06:53 AM

Bump.... for the Var VS Winny ?

**lucky27** · 08-08-2003, 08:53 AM

I also have Proviron , would it be useful anywhere in this stack?

***Pheedno*** · 08-08-2003, 10:38 AM

Originally Posted by TheJuicer

Why do you guys think that nolva should be ran with the L-dex...dont they do the same thing?...........I'm still learning! Thanx

L-dex is an inhibitor and being so, can have negative effects of your lipid profile(cholesterol).

Nolva is a SERM(Selective Estrogen Receptor Modulator) and mimicks liver estrogen which helps in improving the lipid panel.

Taking the nolva along side can help subside the possibility of unstable HDL/LDL

Also, While L-dex prevents conversion, Nolva prevents binding. If the L-dex doesn't work to the degree that you hope, then the Nolva is there as a back up

**lucky27** · 08-08-2003, 12:36 PM

Pheedno you've been helpful on this thread, Thanks, so how does this sound ? I'm thinking of changing my L-dex to .5 mg/EOD & adding Nolv. 10 mg/ED for weeks 1-21.
& what about the Var vs. Winny ? & the Proviron ?

***Pheedno*** · 08-08-2003, 12:42 PM

That should be suffeciant on the anti-e's

I hate winny, it makes my hair fall out like no other AS I've used, it's dried me out to the point of injury, and I just didn't like the gains it brought.

I would hit up the Var over winny anyday.

The proviron probably won't be needed. If you have erectile dysfuntion at anypoint in the cycle, then you could incorporate it. Make sure NOT to use it during clomid. It will hinder recovery.