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    another bridgeing question

    will 10mgs work for most or will it depend on how many mgs you were running before you desided to bridge?

    example:I'm running 60mgs of D's and wanted to know if 10mgs in the a.m. will be enough or should I start at 15mgs

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    Quote Originally Posted by popa
    will 10mgs work for most or will it depend on how many mgs you were running before you desided to bridge?

    example:I'm running 60mgs of D's and wanted to know if 10mgs in the a.m. will be enough or should I start at 15mgs

    Okay here's a little bit of info found on another site. Hope it helps.
    Here's the pharmo-kinetics behind Methandrostenelone,
    brand name Dianabol .

    10mg taken at once will increase your average testosterone level by 5 times and decrease your endogeneous cosrtisone
    by 50-70%.

    The reason why dianabol is a good choice for a bridge is that
    its VERY anti-catabolic. It also dopaminergic. Giving you the
    benefits of increased CNS strength modulation by
    its androgenic mode of action.
    Androgens, in case you don't know, increase neuro-muscular
    function, thus STRENGTH.

    OK. Now, lets delve into the metabolic chemistry behind
    dianabol's choice as a bridging agent.

    When are testosterone levels highest?

    Answer: In the AM, thats when.

    Your body releases a tesosterone spike in the morning.
    This is when tesosterone levels are highest.

    When are Insulin levels lowest?

    Answer: In the AM thats when.

    Low insulin levels=increased protein used as fuel.
    (Also fat, but protein is also being converted
    to glucose via glucogenesis)

    OK, here is where dball's short half-life works for us
    (Its 3.2-4.5 hrs btw)

    Lets take Subject X.

    He's in bridging mode.
    He has just woken up.
    The body is about to release tesosterone, thus
    creating a spike.
    His insulin levels are low.
    His LH and test levels are very low.



    He pops 10mgs of dianabol.

    Here is where things get interesting.

    The 10mgs of dianabol will cause a testosterone
    spike WHICH COINCIDES WITH the testosterone
    released ENDOGENEOUSLY in the AM by the testes.

    The body will be partially fooled.
    It will not entirely detect the increased levels of testosterone
    (above the normal test sipke), thus LH function WILL
    REMAIN only partially(Very little actually) suppressed.

    In other words, he is "piggy-backing" an extra dose of testosterone on top of the endogeneously reduced one,
    thus creating an "inflated" test spike.

    Henceforth, LH levels WILL BE ALLOWED TO SLOWLY
    RECOVER over time.
    Also, dballs anti-catabolic effect will help curb protein-loss
    in the morning from low insulogenic levels.

    HOWEVER, and here is where almost all of you go wrong.

    You CANNOT GO PAST 10mg of dianabol in the AM
    for this bridge to work!!!!

    Why? Because of the blood levels of dianabol you would generate.

    10mg in the AM will be broken down to 5mg in about 4 hrs
    (Probably less)

    5mg of dianabol, is not enough to cause another rise
    in testosterone levels after the precceeding one. Thus,
    LH function is allowed to up-regulate.

    Anything more(Say 20mgs), will cause a SEDCONDARY
    testosterone spike which WILL inhibit LH function further,
    thus not allowing LH function to recover.

    Oh yeah...100mgs? ROTLMFAO!! Fat chance.

    The difference between 20mgs and 10mgs means the difference
    between allowing LH to recover slowly and not allowing it to.

    So, here's the scenario summed up:

    Beginning: LOW LH and test.

    Adding the 10mgs dball.

    LH is allowed to SLOWLY RECOVER over time as
    testosterone levels are kept at a level which
    will not cause muscle-loss. Also, dball's anti-catabolic effects
    will reduce protein degradation.(Via cortisone
    reduction)

    This is what i call a double positive. You have managed to
    INCREASE anabolism(Test levels) and DECREASE
    catabolism(cortisone), during a bridge to boot!!

    The bridge should last 8 weeks, NO LESS.
    I also have to say, that it WILL NOT restore
    complete LH function. It'll get you 80-90%
    of the way there but the only way you're going
    to get your full LH function back is if you go OFF
    completely.
    Anavar WILL NOT restore LH completely either btw.
    (In case anybody is wondering.)
    The difference is that with anavar you can take it
    throughout the day and with dball it HAS TO BE
    once in the AM.

    I wont take an credit for this as it's not my post but I did find it on another site.

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    I believe a 10mg in the AM bridge of dbol will let you recover up to about 80%......any more than that, like the post said, and the body isn't fooled any more and the bridge becomes more of a cycle not letting you recover.

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    that helps lots guy thx

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    Great read .... just what I was looking for. Does this mean that one should not take Clomid or Nolva post cycle?

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    Clomid and Nolva have a different purpose, you need to keep them on hand in case of gyno etc.

    Personally I don't use either unless I feel the symtoms(Nolva) then I load up on it!

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    You should complete or at least start clomid therapy before starting the dbol bridge. You don't need to run it for Eight weeks if bridging to recovery is what you are attempting to do.

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