Trying to write a cycle here & I need a little help

[Sonnie]

Ok im trying to write up a nice stack for quality bulk and I don't know where to put my Fina and EQ.

Here is what I have so far:

W1 - 12: 500mg Cyp
W1 - 12: 400mg Deca
W1 - 5: 30mg Diana ED

Ok I want to put:
5 weeks of EQ at 400mg &
6 Weeks of Fina at 100mg EOD
in here. How would you guys do this. Should the EQ and/or the Fina go at the end or at the start.
I was thinking
W5 - 10 100mg Fina EOD
W8 - 12 400mg EQ
But then again I don't know what goes well with what because I have never used either of these before.

Just pretend this was your stack, where would you put it?.

[BigGreen]

Unless that is you in your pic, and even if it is, that's a little overly ambitious, don't you think? That would be a real veteran's cycle if ever there was one.

I personally would never run fina and deca together because of progesterone concerns and then with regards to eq and deca in the same cycle, i believe there is a place for it, but those places are few and far between.

[Sonnie]

Ok so would you suggest I drop the deca and go for the EQ all the way so I can run the tren .

Something like this maybe:
W1 - 12: 500mg Cyp
W1 - 12: 400mg EQ
W1 - 5: 30mg Diana ED
W7 - 12 100mg Fina EOD

[BDTR]

Is this your first cycle? Is that you in your avatar?

[BigGreen]

Ok so would you suggest I drop the deca and go for the EQ all the way so I can run the tren .

Something like this maybe:
W1 - 12: 500mg Cyp
W1 - 12: 400mg EQ
W1 - 5: 30mg Diana ED
W7 - 12 100mg Fina EOD

Now I think that is a much more sensible idea, but I'd structure the fina (since the acetate ester has a short half life compared to the cyp and eq) to be in your system during the time you're waiting for the cyp and eq to clear...in that regard i'd push the fina up to 10-15...I'd much prefer to have "something" in my system at full force while the eq and cyp self-taper than "waste" that compound too early. Basically, if you're going to six weeks of fina regardless, why not place it where it will be doing its thing right as everything else begins to wind down?

[Sonnie]

Yes this will be my first cycle, but not my first experience with juice. No that is not me in my atavar (unfortunately).

"in that regard i'd push the fina up to 10-15"
My cycle is only going for 12 weeks, do you suggest that I start my fina on my last week of diana?

[BigGreen]

"in that regard i'd push the fina up to 10-15"
My cycle is only going for 12 weeks, do you suggest that I start my fina on my last week of diana?

actually, your cycle does not go for 12 weeks, technically speaking. The eq and cyp will remain in your system for weeks 13, 14 and 15 at gradually diminishing doses...so while you are no longer injecting the compounds, the esters are in effect still supplying you with a dose, albeit a diminishing one as time goes on. For that reason, i'm off the opinion that you should implement the fina in that manner.

[Sonnie]

Hmm ok, this means I must rewrite my clomid and HCG post cycle therapytoo. How does this look

W1 - 12: 500mg Cyp
W1 - 12: 400mg EQ
W1 - 5: 30mg Diana ED
W9 - 14: 100mg Fina EOD
W15 - 17 Clomid therapy

Where would you put the HCG (Week 14 & 15 @ 4000ui??)

[BigGreen]

This is looking better, but, again, that's from my perspective, and I hope that some others will contribute as well. Insofar as HCG , if i were to use it at all in this cycle (and I'm not certain that I would) I would probably do it at about week 8-10 (somewhere in there) so that it'll basically give you a kick midway through. Of course, my view of HCG is that it shouldn't be used as PCT, but rather as an angent to later make PCT easier by being used intermittently at critical points during the cycle (though I also see merit in the every sat/sun method).

[Sonnie]

Thanks for your help BigGreen, I have been working on this stack for a long time now. I share the same views with you on HCG - I only want to use it to get my nuts back and prepare them for clomid.

My only concern now is that this cycle seems a little bare on weeks 6, 7 and 8 - only running test and eq (I know this is enough but should I use something to fill in?).

My stack started looking like this about 3 months ago:
W1 - 12: Cyp 500mg
W1 - 12: Deca 500mg
W1 - 6: Diana 30mg ED
W3 - 12: EQ 200mg
W7 - 12: Fina 100mg EOD
W14 - 16 Clomid therapy

Now it looks like this:
W1 - 12: Cyp 500mg
W1 - 12: EQ 400mg
W1 - 5: Diana 30mg ED
W9 - 14: Fina 100mg EOD
W15 - 17 Clomid therapy


Any other suggested improvements/comments?

[chris1tr69]

Big green when do you think the best time is to take HGC and to cycle it correctly i see alot of different methods but im seriously considering adding some in my next cycle. As for sonnie goes that cycle is a lil big for your first time

[Sonnie]

Any other suggestions?, I wanna get as many as I can.
Thanks