09-05-2003, 07:37 AM #1
Second Cycle Wanna Get Lean - Opinions?
I recently finished my first cycle of:
Weeks 1-8:500mg Test Cyp 300mg Deca
I gained 30lbs and have managed to hold on to 22lbs of it after PCT
Weeks 1-11: 400mg EQ
Weeks 1-8: 100mg Test Prop EOD
Weeks 1-2/5-6/9-10: Clen
Weeks 3-4/7-8: ECA
- 9% Bodyfat Target
- Minimum muscle loss
What do you think?
09-05-2003, 07:40 AM #2
How long ago did you finish your last cycle? Also how long and what did you run for PCT. Great job on keeping on the weight.
09-05-2003, 07:43 AM #3
With the prop you should go 14 weeks with 11 weeks of EQ
09-05-2003, 07:46 AM #4
Thanks for the quick reply
I used Nolva for my PCT, I had Clomid but I heard too many stories about the crappy sides, I literally finished 2 days ago and I ran it like this:
Day 1: 100mg
Days 2-11: 60mg
Day 12-21: 40mg
I don't plan on this cycle for 5-6 months, cos I wanna let my natural test levels recover especially as I used Deca .
I'm just looking for some ideas and input ATM.
09-05-2003, 07:48 AM #5
Cycle look ok but I go with the changes JohnnyB made.
Deca is hard to recover from bro....... I would see if you're fully recoved with some blood work. I would have extended the PCT a few weeks also JMO
09-05-2003, 08:08 AM #6
09-05-2003, 08:15 AM #7Senior Member
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I'd go with the way johnnyB laid out the cycle but I'd change a few things.
1. I'd up the test prop to 150mg/eod or go with a long acting test (cyp,enanth) @ 500mg/wk. Otherwise you test dose will be 350mg/wk which is alittle low and less than what your last cycle was. The reason I'd change the test is b/c eod injects IMO isn't for "a second cycle" save yourself some pokes and go with a long ester.
2. Add some arimidex ,(liquidex) .25 - .5/ed
Just my .02
09-05-2003, 08:30 AM #8Originally Posted by JohnnyB
Yes 3 weeks from last injection and I would run Clomid and Nolva for PCT for at least 4 weeks. JMO
Good catch JohnnyB I guess that's one of the reasons why you're a Vet
09-05-2003, 10:19 AM #9
Yes I waited 3 weeks after my last Deca shot and 2 weeks after my last Test Cyp shot before I started my PCT, that kinda goes without saying don't it?
Thanks for the input anyway guys, keep it comin!
09-14-2003, 08:38 AM #10
Been tweaking things a bit and this is what I've come up with
Weeks 1-6 100mg Test Prop EOD
Weeks 6-12: 100mg Winny EOD
Weeks 1-10: 400mg EQ
Clen & ECA cycled every 2 weeks
Anyways with a good diet and plenty of cardio can I maintain 178lbs and get to the 10% BF region?
09-14-2003, 09:17 AM #11
You need test the whole time. So run it long.
IF your goals are really dropping that much fat, Id ditch the EQ. I would run prop and tren . Throw in the winstrol in the end if you want.
wks 1-8 75 tren + 75prop ED
3-5 50winny ED if you like
OR something more creative
1-6 500 enanthate
1-10 400 EQ
1-6 50mg winstrol ED
7-12 75 prop + 75 tren ED
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