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    Second Cycle Wanna Get Lean - Opinions?

    Hey Fellas

    I recently finished my first cycle of:

    Weeks 1-8:500mg Test Cyp 300mg Deca

    I gained 30lbs and have managed to hold on to 22lbs of it after PCT

    Stats:
    Age: 21
    Height: 5'8"
    Weight: 190lbs
    BF%: 17%

    Second Cycle:
    Weeks 1-11: 400mg EQ
    Weeks 1-8: 100mg Test Prop EOD
    Weeks 1-2/5-6/9-10: Clen
    Weeks 3-4/7-8: ECA

    Goals:
    • 9% Bodyfat Target
    • Minimum muscle loss


    What do you think?

    Thanks, Rugby-Jock

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    How long ago did you finish your last cycle? Also how long and what did you run for PCT. Great job on keeping on the weight.

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    With the prop you should go 14 weeks with 11 weeks of EQ

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    Thanks for the quick reply

    I used Nolva for my PCT, I had Clomid but I heard too many stories about the crappy sides, I literally finished 2 days ago and I ran it like this:

    Day 1: 100mg
    Days 2-11: 60mg
    Day 12-21: 40mg

    I don't plan on this cycle for 5-6 months, cos I wanna let my natural test levels recover especially as I used Deca .

    I'm just looking for some ideas and input ATM.

    Thanks, Rugby-Jock

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    Cycle look ok but I go with the changes JohnnyB made.

    Deca is hard to recover from bro....... I would see if you're fully recoved with some blood work. I would have extended the PCT a few weeks also JMO

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    You havn't already started pct have you, you need to wait 3 weeks with deca and go 4 week on pct.

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    I'd go with the way johnnyB laid out the cycle but I'd change a few things.

    1. I'd up the test prop to 150mg/eod or go with a long acting test (cyp,enanth) @ 500mg/wk. Otherwise you test dose will be 350mg/wk which is alittle low and less than what your last cycle was. The reason I'd change the test is b/c eod injects IMO isn't for "a second cycle" save yourself some pokes and go with a long ester.

    2. Add some arimidex ,(liquidex) .25 - .5/ed

    Just my .02

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    Quote Originally Posted by JohnnyB
    You havn't already started pct have you, you need to wait 3 weeks with deca and go 4 week on pct.

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    I didn't even see that. No wonder why he still has kept the weight from the cycle.

    Yes 3 weeks from last injection and I would run Clomid and Nolva for PCT for at least 4 weeks. JMO

    Good catch JohnnyB I guess that's one of the reasons why you're a Vet

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    Yes I waited 3 weeks after my last Deca shot and 2 weeks after my last Test Cyp shot before I started my PCT, that kinda goes without saying don't it?

    Thanks for the input anyway guys, keep it comin!

    Thanks, Rugby-Jock

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    Been tweaking things a bit and this is what I've come up with

    Second Cycle:
    Weeks 1-6 100mg Test Prop EOD
    Weeks 6-12: 100mg Winny EOD
    Weeks 1-10: 400mg EQ

    Clen & ECA cycled every 2 weeks

    Anyways with a good diet and plenty of cardio can I maintain 178lbs and get to the 10% BF region?

    Thanks, Rugby-Jock

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    You need test the whole time. So run it long.

    IF your goals are really dropping that much fat, Id ditch the EQ. I would run prop and tren . Throw in the winstrol in the end if you want.

    wks 1-8 75 tren + 75prop ED
    3-5 50winny ED if you like

    OR something more creative

    1-6 500 enanthate
    1-10 400 EQ
    1-6 50mg winstrol ED
    7-12 75 prop + 75 tren ED

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