Thread: 600 mg test cyp 1st cycle?
09-07-2003, 08:27 AM #1
600 mg test cyp 1st cycle?
At the starting line of my cycle, last minute check 28, 190 lbs 10-12% bf, would 600 mg test be too much. I plan a test only cycle, with nolva ed (10mg) to offset bloat, don't want to mess with liquidex right now. Would this work?
09-07-2003, 08:36 AM #2Member
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Well..liquidex...why not?...You just wait till ya bloat...QV at 600mg..yeah i do it..QV is underdosed in my opp.
09-07-2003, 08:41 AM #3
I would run 400mg for a first cycle. Unless the gear is tested you don't know it it is under dossed or not. I used QV Cyp my first cycle and ran with 400mg a week for 10 weeks. I do agree that QV's stuff may be under dossed but I don't know how much.
Run the Nolva at 20mg ed.... that will be plenty to offset the bloat.
09-07-2003, 08:45 AM #4Member
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Good call MudMan...I'm just mad at QV EQ..
09-07-2003, 08:50 AM #5
400 would be a good first cycle.
09-07-2003, 08:50 AM #6
09-07-2003, 08:52 AM #7Originally Posted by TheJuicer
09-07-2003, 08:56 AM #8Originally Posted by Warrior
Why not just have him kick start with d-bol at 25mg ED for the first 4 weeks rather than front load 1000mg of test for the first 5?
09-07-2003, 09:16 AM #9Originally Posted by TheMudMan
Just in case you are referring to down regulation....
"One of the most common beliefs concerning anabolic /androgenic steroid (AAS) usage is that the androgen receptor (AR) downregulates as a result of such usage. This has been claimed repeatedly in many books and articles, and it is claimed constantly on bulletin boards and the like. If I’ve heard it once, I’ve heard it a thousand times. If it were just being stated as an abstruse hypothesis, with no practical implications, with no decisions being based on it, that might be of little importance.
Unfortunately, this claim is used to support all kinds of arguments and bad advice concerning practical steroid usage. Thus, the error is no small one." Androgen Receptor Regulation
09-07-2003, 01:01 PM #10
Thanks for all the replies, I plan to run BDIP test cyp. Guess I will go 500 mg/week.
09-08-2003, 02:03 AM #11
BTW - the gram frontload is up to you but I would. You will have a gram in your system by the end of week 4 or so anyway... the idea of frontloading is to get the cycle started faster.
For example (a very rough example):
Week 1: 500mg Test Cyp
Week 2: 500mg Test Cyp, 250mg from week 1
Week 3: 500mg Test Cyp, 250mg from week 2, 100mg from week 1
Week 4: 500mg Test Cyp, 250mg from week 3, 100mg from week 2, 50mg from week 1
And then you begin a maintenance dose... which by this model should actually be about 900mg. So you would frontload 900mg if this rough sketch is accurate. Rule of thumb is usually twice the maintenance dose taken before the first half life (Cypionate is like 4-5 days, some pubs do say 3-4 - most say it's 4-5 days).
Its an effective way to get those heavy esters acting fast like the shorter/lighter ones, like propinate.
Last edited by Warrior; 09-08-2003 at 02:05 AM.
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